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  •  Ginsberg (4+ / 0-)
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    devtob, DigDug, Senor Frog, Candide08

    Considering her health situation, Ginsberg's decision to not retire during Obama's first term remains one of the most selfish and irresponsible decisions I have ever seen.

    Let's hope we dodge a bullet and she and Breyer do the right thing (retire) during Obama's second term.

    •  What's with the idiot Wall Street Journal (5+ / 0-)
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      shrieking this morning in its headlines that the race is "deadlocked"?

      It has been steadily drifting away from any hope of a Romney victory, and yet the tub-thumpers are desperate to keep up their hopeless narrative.

      All anyone has to do is look at Nate Silver's analysis this morning--

      http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/...

      "I can't play the game no more, I can't abide
      By their stupid rules which get me sick inside." —Bob Dylan

      by Pragmatus on Sun Nov 04, 2012 at 10:00:07 AM PST

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      •  The popular vote is close... (0+ / 0-)

        so the WSJ twists it a bit, to try to project what they want.

        The electoral college is not very close at this time (see: http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/).

        I actually think it would be very interesting is Obama lost the popular vote but won the electoral college by a lot.  Maybe then both sides would seriously think about getting rid of it.

        "The right to be heard does not automatically include the right to be taken seriously." -- Hubert H. Humphrey

        by Candide08 on Sun Nov 04, 2012 at 03:51:31 PM PST

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    •  she is going to retire in 2014 (3+ / 0-)
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      I believe she stated she wants to retire in 2014 the same age some other liberal judge she admired retired.  If Romney wins the supreme court will be down to 3 liberals once Ginsburg goes.

      •  Louis Brandeis. But if Romney won, (3+ / 0-)
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        I imagine she'd try to stick it out.

        •  And She Might Not Make It... (5+ / 0-)

          ...I kind of agree with the monumental selfishness sentiment above. Perhaps Justice Ginsberg does not have a progressive agenda. That is, she may vote progressively but not have a program she'd like to see achieved.

          We are completely screwed if Ginsberg dies or must resign during a Romney presidency. I cannot help but think of Thurgood Marshall being replaced by Clarence Thomas. From civil rights hero, defender of the common "man" to an extraordinarily cruel joke of a justice, a parody of Marshall.

          Time is an enormous, long river, and I’m standing in it, just as you’re standing in it. My elders are the tributaries, and everything they thought and every struggle they went through & everything they gave their lives to flows down to me-Utah Phillips

          by TerryDarc on Sun Nov 04, 2012 at 10:42:16 AM PST

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          •  Justice Ginsberg Will Be Replaced by The NEXT Pres (0+ / 0-)

            NOT Barack Obama. There will probably be NO further Supreme Court appointments during Obama's second term at all.

            Many Justices hold on until they're drooling incontinents who die in office like Chief Justice Rehnquist.

            The ages of the Justices who might retire are:

            Ginsberg: 79. Although she's the most likely to retire, She's indicated she won't retire until 2014, at the EARLIEST. And it could be AFTER 2016. Don't count on her to be willing to leave before the 2016 Presidential election.

            She'd only be 84 in January 2017 and lots of Justices have hung on to power like limpets to their rock!

            She's said publicly (in 2010) that she'd like to stay until she's at least 82 (i.e. 2015) because that's the age Justice Brandeis reached and because staying on the Court helps her deal with the death of her husband.

            Well, the Democrats are likely to lose control of the Senate between 2014 and 2016 since the class of 2008 will be up for election and there are a number of threatened Dems in deep red states who will be up for re-election then. Dems are likely to lose at least 4 seats just based on which Senators come up for re-election. (AR & AK are virtually certain loses).

            If Republicans control the Senate in 2015 they simply will NOT appoint ANY Justice Obama nominates unless he's some kind of Conservative. They will wait Obama's term out just like they did THIS year when they blocked ALL judicial appointments in the hopes that Romney will be elected.

            Scalia: 76 -- He'll probably stay another 8 to 10 years.

            Kennedy: 76 -- Probably the same -- we'll be stuck with him another 8 to 10 years.

            Thomas: 64. Probably another TWENTY years with this stiff.

            Steven Breyer: 74, Clinton's other appointee. He's probably good for another 8 to 10 years as well.

            You'll notice that not ONE of the Republican Justices is at all likely to go in the next 4 years. Kennedy is the oldest but he's in perfectly good health and has shone not the slightest inclination to leave the bench. He probably won't leave until he drops just like the rest of them.

            •  I Should Point Out. . . (0+ / 0-)

              That if she REALLY holds on and refuses to leave the court except in a winding sheet, she MIGHT just last until January 2017, in which case the Senate might very well revert to Democratic control, since the 2010 class of Republican Senators from blue states like Ohio, Pennsylvania, and Illinois will be up for re-election.

              2010 the Republicans won 7 seats so it will be the reverse of 2012 and 2014 when Democrats are defending virtually all the vulnerable seats.

              Dems would have lost 2 more seats THIS year in MO & IN except for the imbecilic Tea-bagger candidates they insist on nominating who keep talking about rape.

              They will almost certainly learn in future to shut their mouths about rape being God's plan for all those slutty women whose rape wasn't "legitimate" because they wore short skirts (even though they all believe it), and their extremism will pass without notice.

    •  I think you are way too judgmental (4+ / 0-)
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      re Justice Ginsberg's career decision.  

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