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  •  I'm not really talking... (none)
    ...about the question of whether a blastocyst is protected by the Constitution, so much as the question of the more fundamental question of whether it should be. And it is a self-deception to claim that there is a difference at all between people who "judge by religion" and "judge by reason" on moral issues. All people who use reason -- including the very many people who do so within a context of religion -- to judge moral issues start with a priori assumptions which are not themselves, ultimately, products of reason.
    •  Yes you are (none)
      so much as the question of the more fundamental question of whether it should be.

      Ok - we are still talking about the same thing.


      All people who use reason -- including the very many people who do so within a context of religion -- to judge moral issues start with a priori assumptions which are not themselves, ultimately, products of reason.

      Yes, but what we are dealing with is a lot of people who use reason but base their judgements upon superstitous beliefs - such as "souls".

       

      •  So? (none)
        Yes, but what we are dealing with is a lot of people who use reason but base their judgements upon superstitous beliefs - such as "souls".

        If that is a problem at all, is not because it is "religion" but because the belief is, in fact, wrong.

        Its the belief itself not the source that is the issue.

        •  Because (none)

          If that is a problem at all, is not because it is "religion" but because the belief is, in fact, wrong.

          Its the belief itself not the source that is the issue.

          Distinction without a difference - the problem is that the wrong belief is due to superstition.

          •  No, its not... (none)
            ...the source of the belief is not the problem, if there is a problem. The conclusion, if it is wrong at all, is the problem.

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