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  •  Romanticism and the Republicans (1+ / 0-)
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    Aunt Pat

    Republicans are romantics--in the literary sense of the word.  That is, they have faith in mysticism, fate, and the past.  Nature as a  personification is also part of this.  They do not believe in self improvement, education, the future, change or free will.  They may say they do, but deep down, they believe in determination as does protestantism (at the core).  Martin Luther himself declared that to believe in free will is blasphemy.  When you're saved, you're saved--no matter what you do.  (Luther's personal life, as testament to this belief, is full of shocking, depraved behavior.)  

    Romanticism collided with the Enlightenment and hasn't stopped ever since.  The founding of this country, of course, was by Enlightenment thinkers inspired by the Philosophes (Locke, Voltaire, etc.).  Republicans have been trying to repeal this history ever since.

    Old Hippies Never Give Up!

    by ravenrdr on Sat Nov 03, 2012 at 03:54:07 AM PDT

    •  Shocking and Depraved Luther (1+ / 0-)
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      Aunt Pat

      As far as I know, the most depraved thing Luther did was to marry a renegade nun.  And (gasp!) have sex with her.  More than once!  Also he had a bad temper, drank a lot of beer and liked to fart, but among Germans those are considered virtues.

      I think you are mischaracterizing Luther's teachings, at least the way I learned them.  Luther had a big problem with "Works Righteousness", the doctrine that we earn our way to Heaven through our Good Works.  The Epistle of James, which emphasizes Works, drove him crazy for a while until he figured out how to reconcile Paul's "Salvation though Grace: with James' "Faith Without Works is Dead".

      Luther did not feel that morality was irrelevant, but rather that it had to be grounded in something other than self-help and the quest for reward.  "Good works do not make a man good, but a good man does good works."  In Luther's view, the Christian does not live a virtuous life in an attempt to buy his way into Heaven; he is, as you say, already saved; but being saved, he ought to strive to be more Christ-like, which includes caring for his neighbor around him.

      But Lutheran Theology is more complicated a subject than I really wanted to get into in a short comment.  What I really wanted to do was mention a saying of Luther's that I like to quote when talking about The End Times, as some of the previous commenters have.

      Luther is supposed to have once said, "If I knew for a fact that Christ was coming tomorrow, I would not let that stop me from planting an apple tree today."  Expecting Judgement Day to come is not an excuse to sit on our butts and wait.  We have gardens to tend and litter to pick up and neighbors in need of care and comfort.

      And Progressives to elect in order to help with this good work.  (heh.)

      "All the World's a Stage and Everyone's a Critic." -- Mervyn Alquist

      by quarkstomper on Sat Nov 03, 2012 at 06:21:47 AM PDT

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