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  •  Occupy Sandy has done (8+ / 0-)

    a brilliant job stepping up.  I'm not a big Red Cross fan -- too much history of failure and I've picked up my mother's resentment re: the WWII soldiers and sailors (my father one of them) who had to pay for those donuts and coffee.  Both of us give blood, however.

    About FEMA -- I hope folks remember that Bloomberg rejected FEMA -- it wasn't until the damage was done that he was forced to accept assistance.  Staging is everything for things to work smoothly.  FEMA was staged up and down the coast but not in the city.  

    Also, in catastrophic situations such as this one -- with a dumbass mayor -- everything is not going to be corrected within a week.  And trust me, I've been through enough multi-week power outages to last a lifetime.  I also know some things require layers of work to get to the core -- no power until limbs are removed, poles are replaced, transformers are replaced the underground old wiring and boxes are checked.  

    Cold comfort to those who are suffering, in the dark, elderly and awaiting the Nor'Easter on Wed-Thurs.

    " My faith in the Constitution is whole; it is complete; it is total." Barbara Jordan, 1974

    by gchaucer2 on Sun Nov 04, 2012 at 09:42:18 PM PST

    •  Saw a Tweet today (6+ / 0-)
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      that I wish I'd saved so I could repost -- someone said they hadn't been a big fan of OWS but they were quite impressed with the work the group was doing to help with the Sandy recovery. That's how you get folks on your side.

      Not a huge fan of the national (or international) organization, but I've known local Red Cross volunteers who've been quite dedicated, doing the best they can with the resources provided. Had several dates rescheduled back in the day when my gentleman friend at the time, a Disaster Services volunteer, had to go out to help with fire victims or other folks in need. I'll donate to my local chapters for that reason before I'll donate to the national.

      "If we ever needed to vote we sure do need to vote now" -- Rev. William Barber, NAACP

      by Cali Scribe on Sun Nov 04, 2012 at 10:00:36 PM PST

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      •  That's very good advice (3+ / 0-)
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        donate locally.

        " My faith in the Constitution is whole; it is complete; it is total." Barbara Jordan, 1974

        by gchaucer2 on Sun Nov 04, 2012 at 10:11:45 PM PST

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        •  Local is always where to start, (2+ / 0-)
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          And Hat's Off to Occupy!
          I had given up on the "movement" until last Tuesday. They played their card on Wall Street, kicked a big dent in the Media "conversation", particularly in the Inside the Beltway group-think, then dissipated, seemingly bogged down in ideological battles and chasing dead ends.
          But come the flood, they came roaring back, taking a crucial role that no one else was ready or able to take.
          This is how Third Parties and new movements become relevant, they become trusted, lauded contributors to society via local action. People that were helped by Occupy Sandy are not soon going to forget who got them food and water, who helped locate their friends and relatives, who got them into shelter, helped get their lives, if not get back on track, at least stop the freefall into the abyss. And the traditional first responders should notice that they were relieved of these tasks, so that they could concentrate on their own roles, putting out the fires, rescuing those stranded, blood banking et cetera.
          If Occupy was a political party, they could run on this record, from this disaster, for the next several election cycles. It will be interesting to see what they do with that banked up charm.
          The rejection of electoral politics, the refusal to engage, I think, hurt the movement as a whole. Here you have a bunch of people activated, a bigger bunch of people supportive from the sidelines, and no clear path to put that power to work. (And don't be afraid to recognize that power, it's exactly what y'all were working to produce, you succeeded, now own it.)
          Think Occupy could field candidates for local office in Red Hook? I'd bet that they could. They could probably run in most of the boroughs, successfully.
          One other thing, though, NPR (about the only news source I have other than the interwebs) has had a lot of stories about the storm and it's aftermath, without, so far, a mention of Occupy Sandy. Proving, once more, that they are no longer a comprehensive news source. I don't know if OS is getting other MSM exposure (I don't do Tv) but my guess is they are not. And I'm sure that Occupiers will tell you that they are not doing it for the publicity, but recognition for their heroic work begets a level of acceptance and makes doing that work that much easier. Truly, kids, it's not media whoring to take reporters along, it's part of your mission to change hearts and minds.

          •  The publicity and participation (0+ / 0-)

            among people on the ground is the goal, not MSM recognition.  Not because occupy hates being well known but because the MSM is part of the disease we are fighting.  It can't be trusted and to build a viable and sustainable long-term organization we need to work outside the MSM view, or at least not worry about it.  We have our own media networks we're plugging people into to replace corporate media.

            This is a broad and deep movement in terms of who is taking part in it, and this is exactly how to build those sorts of movements.

            The revolution will not be televised. But it will be blogged, a lot. Probably more so than is necessary.

            by AoT on Mon Nov 05, 2012 at 11:01:58 AM PST

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