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  •  Ohio DRE have voter verified paper ballots (2+ / 0-)
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    SoOH Mom, rmx2630

    I'm quite knowledgeable on this topic, and I hate these dairies. But they are not CT.

    They may lack facts, written by people that dont have a handle on the technical aspects of voting machines or election laws.

    But its not CT.

    The election in Ohio 2004 was fraudulent, 2 election workers were convicted for what happened.

    FDR 9-23-33, "If we cannot do this one way, we will do it another way. But do it we will.

    by Roger Fox on Sun Nov 04, 2012 at 07:09:59 PM PST

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    •  Dude (0+ / 0-)

      I have a technical handle on this, believe me.  That's why it pisses me off so much.

      •  Nope, you stated that voters got receipts- (0+ / 0-)

        Thats not how the printers work.

        If you dont understand how the VVPB works, you dont have a technical handle on this point.

        DO you even know what processor the iVotronic uses?

        Do you know what operating system the Unity tabulators use?

        What and how many ports are on the iVotronic and what are they used for?

        FDR 9-23-33, "If we cannot do this one way, we will do it another way. But do it we will.

        by Roger Fox on Mon Nov 05, 2012 at 08:21:48 AM PST

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    •  But in 2004 we could not properly investigate (0+ / 0-)

      We really do not know how much fraud was really committed in that election.  The Governor was a Republican, the Secretary of State was a Republican, the Attorney General was a Republican.  And, of course, all 3 branches of the Federal Government were Republican controlled.  There was no way to mount a credible investigation, though John Connors tried.

      And, as I recall, the convictions for the 2004 election were concerning the recounts.  Now, it seems to me that the only reason you would commit fraud during a recount is if you knew that the recount would change the outcome.  And you would only know that if you knew that there was fraud committed in the election itself. No?

      I think we have every reason to be very, very suspicious in this issue.

      Now, I will say that I am somewhat reassured by the fact that the DOJ is in Democratic hands and the Senate is in Democratic hands.  And I think that and only that would tend to restrain them. (Well, that and the fact that it is possible Obama may not actually need Ohio to win).  But, I think that is really naive to believe that they do not have the willingness and the ability to commit election fraud again if the payoff is large enough.  

      "But all in all, it's been a fabulous year for Laura and me." - bush summing up his first year in office, 3 months after 9/11, Washington, D.C., Dec. 20, 2001

      by rmx2630 on Mon Nov 05, 2012 at 03:20:41 AM PST

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