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  •  No one is saying that didn't happen. (2+ / 0-)
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    And god help us it still does (sigh), but it is getting better, or was. This whole election is aimed at making sure it's worse. I live in some serious redneck country, I know exactly the people you are thinking of. Many are on assistance and live...well, I wouldn't keep a dog where they live. They see no way to make their lives better, so why should their kids want any more than they had. Instead of working for a better life, they just want to drag everyone into their pit. They victimize others so they feel superior to anyone else. Doesn't make it right,, just saying its who they are. The ones with good jobs and nice homes are the ones I can't figure out. Some people are just horrible I guess.
     Not every southerner is a redneck, and not every Yankee is up to speed on equality. And I have been on the receiving end of some ugly racist crap hurled by Latinos and African Americans who made snap decisions based on my color and accent. I shrugged it off as best I could knowing they had a lot more reason to be angry than I. But it still ain't right, and being female I get it coming and going.
    I raised my kids with 'don't generalize about people, get to know them before you dislike them. If you dislike someone, personalize it, know why. Generalizing is easy, people are complicated and a lot harder'
    I would not be happy in a city, you would probably not be happy with a pack of coyotes singing in your back yard and no street lights. And wouldn't life be dull if we were all the same?

    "And while it was regarded as pretty good evidence of criminality to be living in a slum, for some reason owning a whole street of them merely got you invited to the very best social occasions."

    by Shippo1776 on Mon Nov 05, 2012 at 11:01:04 PM PST

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    •  What you experienced is prejudice, (2+ / 0-)
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      not racism. Racism is a sustained,  deeply entrenched structural preference for one group constructed over long stretches of time that confers inherent privileges on said group. Prejudice is harassment on ethnic grounds. I'm not disputing that this may have been a traumatic experience for you, but American whites like you and me really have no idea what it is like to experience actual institutional and cultural racism because of white privilege. Whatever our individual experiences, our appearance and cultural attitudes are regarded as the default in this country because of its history of white supremacist racism in all geographical areas (not just the South). Note that I am only saying this about the racial aspect of your experience and I acknowledge that as a woman you are the victim of institutional and cultural sexism.

      What's that black smoke risin' Jack, is the world on fire?

      by Reckoner on Mon Nov 05, 2012 at 11:59:36 PM PST

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      •  One of the things I experienced (0+ / 0-)

        Was having a mom take her 4 year old trick or treating. I love Halloween, so I go all out. She got 3-5 feet from me,  stopped, grabbed her son and said 'never mind, that bitch ain't got nothing for you, she's white'. This was in California. So racist to teach your children skin color is all or not?
         Prejudice I understand, I also know racist when I see it. This was not an isolated incident.

        "And while it was regarded as pretty good evidence of criminality to be living in a slum, for some reason owning a whole street of them merely got you invited to the very best social occasions."

        by Shippo1776 on Tue Nov 06, 2012 at 06:03:53 AM PST

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