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  •  Some (not me) feel that (8+ / 0-)

    it is wrong to vote for a candidate who adopts positions which are violations of human rights, and that the proper response is to not vote or vote 3rd party.

    The idea is that by saying "I'll vote for Obama because I like his stance on abortion, even if I think he's wrong on drone strikes" is to create a system where human rights issues are always swept under the rug.   Rather than choosing the lesser evil, choose no evil at all is the idea behind this argument.

    My response, however, is that I am not "choosing" the lesser evil.   Instead, I am voting for a basic principle -- namely, the party which tries to empower more people, rather than the party which tries to take away power from the people.   Since I believe that, in the long run, the wisdom of democracy will result in a vindication of my ideas, empowering more people in the end helps to further my goals as a Progressive.  

    •  Well, in this case, the necessary firewall (3+ / 0-)
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      Ginny in CO, Citizenpower, Oh Mary Oh

      to prevent worse scenarios would be my concern.  It is not like Romney and Obama aren't different.  It is not like the NeoCons that Romney wants to bring back to power were not responsible for more than a million deaths of civilians in Iraq when they controlled George W. Bush's foreign policy.

      Obama's record is admittedly tarnished, but not with more than ONE MILLION CIVILIAN DEATHS.

      Sorry for the all caps, but perspective is important in this moment.

      If Obama wins, I'll join in going after him on that front among others.  He can do better - and he even might do better - anyone who thinks that Romney and his people would do anything rational or sane is fooling themselves.

      Finally, in closing, I would offer the following thought:

      We would all love to have a saint or twenty to vote for, but we ain't got that.  We vote for mere mortals and mortals are flawed.  It is just the way it is in this earthly life.

      •  I am with this 100% (2+ / 0-)
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        liz dexic, Oh Mary Oh

        Really happy to be voting for Obama again, and that my 87 year old civil rights activist parents (from the late 40's) are voting for him the second time as well. Wish we could be taking back the House... cutting the majority difference will help.

        Meanwhile, we will have a much better situation to harass both Obama and Congress to get to work and speed up the forward progress than if Mitt could steal it* and have the House and a filibuster stranglehold on the Senate.

        SCOTUS will not be endangered and the House GOP needs to be reminded every day what a mess they are in because of their Tea Party fling with oaths to Grover, who may well drown in a bathtub...

        *64 trillion dollar question: is Pennsylvania the state that is supposed to steal it this year? From the reports, it sure looks like they are and I doubt they will pull it off :)

        "People, even more than things, have to be restored, renewed, revived, reclaimed and redeemed; never throw out anyone. " Audrey Hepburn "A Beautiful Woman"

        by Ginny in CO on Tue Nov 06, 2012 at 03:52:04 PM PST

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    •  Consensus agreement is the heart of democratic (0+ / 0-)

      process.. I wish more people could understand that.

      Democracy isn't achieved by voting for the less of two evils. It is achieved by collaborating together to find the best possible solutions to the most difficult problems.

      The best possible solutions to our economic, health care, justice and inequality problems are not going to be met with Romney as president. They will certainly have more than a fighting chance with Obama. He has a record to stand on. It's not perfect but its not impossible to change.

      I don't feel much "hope" for a better future with Romney but Obama allows for that.

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