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  •  We were fucked with redistricting (2+ / 0-)
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    In PA, where Obama won handily, we lost the House races 13-5. And it happened that way all over. If we are going to take back the house in 2014, its going to take blue dogs. As much as people hate admitting it around here, that is the only way we are going to get to a democratic majority until we can try to improve with redistricting in 2020.

    •  Disagree (3+ / 0-)

      Blue dogs lost.  We don't need more Democrats lamenting the fact that Obamacare passed and is law or sell out their would be constituents to large corporations and billionaires.  We need Dems who go into the red districts and tell the people how great it is and tell the people there how it will benefit them.  In 2014 it will be fully implemented so there is no excuse.  We need to find Dems who will stand up for their principles not adopt those of the GOP because they're trying to win races in red districts.  Many of those people in those districts are hurting as much if not more so.  We need Dems with balls who will go to the people and be populists not corporate sellouts.  BUt that won't do it in time for 2014.  It takes time to break through the Fox haze.    

      The only way to win the House in the short run is to take back the states.  In 2014 we can replace many of the tea bagging assholes in various governors houses.  We can replace the majorities in many states that the Teahadists control.  We can replace the SOS in Florida and Ohio.   Then we can push through proper redistricting.  

      In Florida we have 10/27 seats despite Obama winning the state.  Michigan is 5/14, Obama won it.  NJ we have 6/6 despite it being a solid blue state.  Ohio 4/16 Obama won it.  Pennsylvania 5/18, Obama won it.  Virginia 3/11, Obama won it.  Wisconsin 3/8, Obama won it.  

      You want to know why we lost the House?  In EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THOSE STATES THE GOP WON THE GOVERNOR'S RACE IN 2010.  They controlled the redistricting and gerrymandered the living fuck out of those states.  That's 84 seats in Blue states and the GOP has 48 of them (57%).  You flip 15 of those and Nancy Pelosi is speaker.

      A 50 state strategy would help too.  We lost out on some late breaking races like TN-04, MN-06 and even in MI-11 where we'll have Santa Claus representing that district.  Give me a freaking break.  You mean we can't beat a serial adulterer and hypocrite in TN?   The Obama machine did very well for him but hopefully in 2014 he'll put that machine to good use to win some winnable House races too.  Keep registering Dem voters in purple areas and turn them blue.  The reality is that in many of those redder districts the demographics are trending away from them.   But we have to get our people registered and to the polls in 2014 or it will be another 2010.  

      Frankly the House is so fucking gerrymandered that it may well take to 2020 to fix it.  I hope I'm wrong though.

      This is your world These are your people You can live for yourself today Or help build tomorrow for everyone -8.75, -8.00

      by DisNoir36 on Wed Nov 07, 2012 at 06:01:24 AM PST

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      •  The silver lining of gerrymandering (1+ / 0-)
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        The way you gerrymander red is to make a few solid blue districts, and a lot of weak red ones. That means that if we raise the tide by 5-10% — a herculean but not impossible task — we have the potential to sweep those places entirely. Flip 15, and you're already three quarters of the way to flipping 40 or more.

        Senate rules which prevent any reform of the filibuster are unconstitutional. Therefore, we can rein in the filibuster tomorrow with 51 votes.

        by homunq on Wed Nov 07, 2012 at 06:20:09 AM PST

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      •  You are correct - long term (0+ / 0-)

        Many, if not most, states have been severely gerrymandered.  Registering and motivating voters, providing good candidates on the national, state, and local levels, increasing voter participation in the process; these are all excellent long-term solutions.  

        But we will be dealing with a lame duck session beginning now, and potential gridlock beginning in January.  A House coalition would address those problems now, in the short term.  We can still work to change the complexion of the House and Senate for 2014 and beyond even if we create a coalition in the House today.

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