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  •  They can scan both sides at once (13+ / 0-)

    I'm glad they designed the machines that way because it makes it much easier at the polling place.

    I too don't really like having to trust the machines, which is why Debra Bowen's strategy is to work around having to trust any one person or vendor: different vendors can be used as long as they implement the same standard, and a hand recount of a statistically-significant sample in all elections is there to catch cases where the machines are still doing the wrong thing.

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    by barath on Wed Nov 07, 2012 at 07:16:00 PM PST

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    •  Yo Barath- one more piece of tech to add: (7+ / 0-)

      Universal close-up audio & video surveillance, with recording, of the entire counting process in every precinct.

      This would be simple to implement: webcams with mics mounted in the counting rooms, some focused on the entire room from various angles, some focused in close-up mode on the actual counting process itself.  

      Broadcast all of that online, and anyone who wishes can watch, up close & personal.

      Then if someone sees something questionable, they can pick up the phone and call Election Protection or some state agency, which can intervene directly and rapidly at the location where the questionable event occurred.  The surveillance files for that point in time can be reviewed, and if needed, the batch of ballots in question can be re-counted.

      Storage capacity is cheap, and successful examples of mass data collection are well known.  There's no reason not to do this.

      Beyond that, why not hand count everything while watching it all via webcam?  Do them in small batches, every ballot passing through two counting tables, and any mismatch in their totals causing immediate recounts of the batches that didn't match.

      The optical scanners could be used to get fast unofficial totals, and then the hand count the next day could produce the official totals.  

      A second set of poll workers would conduct the counts, so they could show up for work fresh & sharp, while the day shift of poll workers wrapped up and went home.  This also has the benefit of getting more people involved in the actual process.  

      This election was the turning point toward a future with a future.

      by G2geek on Wed Nov 07, 2012 at 09:37:50 PM PST

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      •  Agreed - this makes sense (2+ / 0-)
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        It's a lot cheaper to do this sort of monitoring than it was even 5 years ago, though I can imagine that non-tech savvy officials probably would be very leery of such a public monitoring system.  (And given how hard it is for them to keep their basic websites up on election day, I can't imagine they'd do this well - they'd need help from sites with infrastructure to replicate the feeds.)

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        by barath on Thu Nov 08, 2012 at 05:00:26 AM PST

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      •  True the Vote (spit) would be ... (1+ / 0-)
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        ... on the phone every few minutes --

        Complaining about blue and minority districts. Sending cops everywhere, and suing when municipalities ran out of cops.

        Definitely, but respectfully, disagree.

        Millions of us – the majority – must come together to insist that President Obama and the Democrats stand up and fight for the things we sent them there to do ... Michael Moore

        by MT Spaces on Thu Nov 08, 2012 at 07:35:59 AM PST

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        •  And getting (3+ / 0-)
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          their pants sued off after the election for phoning in fraudulent complaints.

          I'm all for them being sued into oblivion.

          I am not religious, and did NOT say I enjoyed sects.

          by trumpeter on Thu Nov 08, 2012 at 10:55:25 AM PST

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          •  Their backers have SO much money ... (0+ / 0-)

            ... and prosecutions for anti-vote shenanigans have been spotty historically.

            I don't think cameras are any answer, is my contention.

            Millions of us – the majority – must come together to insist that President Obama and the Democrats stand up and fight for the things we sent them there to do ... Michael Moore

            by MT Spaces on Thu Nov 08, 2012 at 03:17:31 PM PST

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