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  •  Did any Democratic campaign track provisionals? (2+ / 0-)

    I think this is a great idea tojojo, and could receive national support.   The problem is - do you have the numbers to call?

    From our experience in Virginia, where a similar rule on returning with ID was introduced for the first time, getting contact information on voters who voted provisionally is not straightforward.

    Our jurisdiction is a Democratic stronghold, so we always have poll greeters outside the polls every E-day.   This federal election, we were 2-deep all day, 3-deep at rush hours.   OFA also had election protection lawyers inside every precinct, and often a team of lawyers outside.   So we were staffed up at very high levels - a luxury, I realize.

    Even with this, in order to get contact info on those who voted provisionally, we had to coordinate. The inside lawyer was the point person.   If (s)he could get the name and address, that went onto an OFA sheet.   If (s)he could take the time to step outside with a voter and get a phone number, even better.   However, if the voter declined help, or got out of the polling place too fast, the inside person had to text a description of the provisional voter to the outside lawyer, and then all poll greeters deployed to intercept.  

    Fortunately, we had few such incidents.  Nothing like the levels I see here, which would have probably overwhelmed even our system.  

    So...I hope that Arizona Dems and OFA anticipated the need to contact voters who voted provisionally and put systems in place in advance.   Otherwise that information is gone, unless it is a matter of public record, and even if the registrar has it, you have to get access to it in the next couple of hours to make this work.  

    All the very best of luck with this.   And - if the systems were not in place this time - please work with your local Democratic committees to put them in place in the future.  

    •  My lesson here is that I am NEVER EARLY VOTING (1+ / 0-)
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      AGAIN.  It's a great idea that always goes wrong here. Never. Again.  

      Not until they get this worked out. I am not interested in being counted "it it's close."  That's crap. I want to be counted on or by Election Day.

      Lover, fighter, dreamer

      by kate mckinnon on Thu Nov 08, 2012 at 07:18:27 AM PST

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      •  They do get counted though (2+ / 0-)
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        It's just that submitting those early ballots late will cause the delay. They do get counted though.

        Personally, I think going into the election office early and voting is the best of all options. It's out of the way in case you're deathly ill on election day, and those are the first counted.

        •  Except that... (0+ / 0-)

          The AZ SOS told me this morning that what they do with the early votes is hold them in a box and then deliver them to the polls on Election Day. My vote rides in someone's car? To the poll? To be counted after the election? Or maybe not counted.

          Nothing about that process is appealing to me. Now if the votes were counted as they came in, that would be something awesome.

          Lover, fighter, dreamer

          by kate mckinnon on Thu Nov 08, 2012 at 07:39:12 PM PST

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