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  •  The Democratic party is center-right (0+ / 0-)

    so moderate Republicans can fit right in, no problem.  

    •  I think that's what's happening. It's how we ended (0+ / 0-)

      up with Webb (a former Reagan Republican who was good on some issues and bad on others) or Tester. And my understanding is that Donnelly is in that category. Also 2 Democratic candidates who just lost: Kerrey (who was into modifying Social Security) and Carmona.  Carmona was originally a Republican, IIRC.
      We may end up within the next decade in having a split in the Democratic party as the old Republicans die off (literally). Maybe we'll witness the birth of a new party that will take over the spot formerly occupied by Eisenhower Republicans.

      We're not perfect, but they're nuts! -- Barney Frank

      by Tamar on Thu Nov 08, 2012 at 10:21:50 AM PST

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      •  Senator Webb (0+ / 0-)

        I remain so grateful to him for defeating Allen in 2006, but I think we made a progressive upgrade in that seat with Tim Kaine.

        Nobody puts Baby in a binder!

        by deminva on Thu Nov 08, 2012 at 10:31:11 AM PST

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      •  Meh (0+ / 0-)

        I'll politely disagree a bit.

        I'll always take more Democrats. Certainly over today's Republicans. I think a solid majority, up, way up, over 60 eliminates most of the procedural bullshit, and the freakin compromises that leads to. And a fat majority like that will take some more conservative members.

        Was a time we had a big tent Senate majority. A weird majority. Red state liberals like McGovern and Church alongside racists like Stennis. Some good stuff got done, more would have if we avoided Vietnam. Needed some Republican help, but we hold most of those seats now.

        I'll take the Webbs and Testers, and a few others, to get a nice fat majority like that back. As long as they play nice.

         I will always trade up to a better more progressive Democrat, but I am always reluctant to trade down to a Republican. And the Republican is almost always a trade down.

        A society is judged by how well it cares for those in the dawn of life, the children. By how well it cares for those in the twilight of life, the elderly. And, by how well it cares for those on the edge of life; the poor, the sick, and the disabled.

        by BobBlueMass on Thu Nov 08, 2012 at 12:22:31 PM PST

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    •  Sometimes the policies of today's Democratic party (1+ / 0-)
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      seem more like the policies of '60s Rockefeller Republicans than FDR New Deal Democrats.  John Lindsay would feel right at home in today's Democratic party.

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