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  •  Pushed further away by teabagger Republicanism (5+ / 0-)

    Relatively moderate Republican-leaning indys in a region with a tradition of moderate Republicanism.

    •  Honestly I have no idea (4+ / 0-)

      I grew up in Washington County (north of Albany but not yet in the Adirondack park) and the trend shocks me.  There isn't huge population growth north in upstate NY, but what there is comes from Albany and Saratoga.

      I think maybe it's the reverse of Western PA.  A lot of the old rural farmers who were dependent on the land and also govt help via the farm bills have died.  farming isn't what it once was and now the economies lean towards other industries.  And the kids growing up their don't have moderates like Gerry Solomon to skew them to the GOP side any more.

      Those are all suppositions that seem logical but that can't really be proven.  My honest got feel of what the answer is?  SUNY schools.  SUNY schools litter upstate NY and while most serve a lot of locals, they draw hugely from NYC and the more liberal parts of Long Island and the Westchester/Rockland County areas.  

      So those students may vote at their college address, giving gains that way.  Or say maybe 5 out of every 100 students gets a job in the same place as their SUNY school; thats essentially moving NYC Dems to upstate GOP areas.

      I honestly think this is probably the biggest reason, and probably overlooked in analysis.  SUNY schools are growing enrollments and moving New yorkers all around the state.

      "What if you're on a game show one day and the name of some random New Jersey state senator is the only thing between you and several thousand dollars? And you'll think to yourself, "if only I had clapped faster." - sapelcovits

      by rdw72777 on Thu Nov 08, 2012 at 12:07:53 PM PST

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    •  Funny that so many people were predicting (8+ / 0-)

      Romney would overperform in New England, because of his profile.  Instead, the former governor of Massachusetts hits record numbers in...Appalachia.

      Looking at the map, it's like they just ran Mike Huckabee or Rick Santorum.

      •  Which was the whole point (1+ / 0-)
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        MichaelNY

        People thought Romney so much the more electable candidate, and it made no sense.  Huck/Newt/Rick/Romney/Perry were all equally (un)popular in CO/VA/WI/FL/NV.

        I mean maybe you argue Newt/Perry are "Southern" and could have "maybe" grabbed FL and VA, but still they lose.  Obama wins OH by more against Perry/Newt than he did against Romney I think.

        "What if you're on a game show one day and the name of some random New Jersey state senator is the only thing between you and several thousand dollars? And you'll think to yourself, "if only I had clapped faster." - sapelcovits

        by rdw72777 on Thu Nov 08, 2012 at 12:22:30 PM PST

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      •  Had it been the pre-1994 Republican party (1+ / 0-)
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        MichaelNY

        he might have done well there.  But since Gingrich, New England and the middle atllantic have moved further and further from the Republican party in presidential elections.

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