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  •  As you know (6+ / 0-)

    I always tip & rec your(and GGB & noise of rain's) diaries. I donate to WI politicans & causes. I follow your politics even though I live 1000(?) miles away. I LIKE Wisconsin.

    But damn it, how could the WI government PICK UP GOP seats?

    All I read is how corrupt Walker is, what a crook he is, how stupid he is, how he's screwing over Unions, how he's porkin teachers, ffer's, and cops, how he is gonna be indicted any day now, how the John Doe trial will be his demise, how his cronies are going to jail, how his former secretary(or who ever it was) was doing campaign work on taxpayer time & she's gonna turn State's Evidence against him, how he's operating in direct opposition to WI's Constitution re: "The People's House, how he harasses folks singing at lunch time with dubious, illegal tickets...and then Wisconsinites go to the polls and elect more Republicans.

    I mean--Repubs re-took both Houses in Wisconsin? After the recall? WTF? How? How?

    I've found the Cheeseheads I've met to be reasonable & not stupid. Heck, downright fun if brats & cheap beer is involved. The OLB is one of the more clever things I've ever seen. But for the life of me, I'm thinking Wisconsin is...Madison surrounded by a sea of stupid. I don't mean to insult or offend you but I'm starting to think WI is beyond redemption. Your Governor is losing State money hand over fist, snubbing Federal help, continuing to kick the 'downtrodden', hard-working middle class--and you guys vote in MORE Republicans!

    I KNOW you dudes worked hard-tirelessly in fact, but I am forced to acknowledge that most Wisconsinites like the way things are going, or at least a voting majority likes what it happening there. Why should I continue to fight with you when it seems--in election after election--the Union haters are ok with Scott Walker and there is enough of them to win elections?

    Can you clue me in? Cuz I just don't get it.

    "The better I know people, the more I like my dog."

    by Thinking Fella on Thu Nov 08, 2012 at 01:41:30 PM PST

    •  Here's how they won (7+ / 0-)

      Attention paid to national candidates via national media so they had all the information needed to make good Senate and Presidential choices.  Tammy Baldwin and Barack Obama cleaned up here.

      Local and state media are still in the tank for the GOP so Republicans in Congress and our state houses weren't exposed for who they are and what they represent.  Humongous amounts of money and attack ads did the rest.

      And then there's the secretly done gerrymandering that ensured a majority of districts were red.

      Don't give up - we aren't

      It's not how many times you get knocked down, but the number of times you get up that counts.

      Thanks for all your support.  Much appreciated.

      There already is class warfare in America. Unfortunately, the rich are winning.

      by Puddytat on Thu Nov 08, 2012 at 02:09:54 PM PST

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      •  I appreciate (5+ / 0-)

        your kind reply, especially given how let down you must be. I mean, I'm sad and I'm 1000 miles away!

        And I again tip my hat to you, GGB, NoR, and the whole Cheesehead Brigade. "Above & Beyond" barely covers your contributions, and I mean that sincerely.

        I don't know how, but you've got to shake your neighbors awake before no one has a pension left & cops need food stamps to get by.

        Onward, my friend.

        "The better I know people, the more I like my dog."

        by Thinking Fella on Thu Nov 08, 2012 at 02:30:04 PM PST

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        •  The work definitely goes on (2+ / 0-)
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          I'm taking a break for a few weeks because the past month has been intense.  The peoples movement that rose out of the protests has stayed together and worked together.

          Forward is our state's motto.

          There already is class warfare in America. Unfortunately, the rich are winning.

          by Puddytat on Thu Nov 08, 2012 at 02:49:32 PM PST

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        •  While I hate to sound reductive, I believe that (6+ / 0-)

          a lot of Walker's support is racially motivated... that is, the playbook that the nation seemingly dismissed two nights ago regarding Romney has been playing very well, thank you, in Wisconsin. Many people around the state are highly susceptible to racial and racist manipulation. They look to Milwaukee (and more and more Madison) and perceive the "takers not makers" line that the rightwing has so thoroughly invested in, and they see Walker and his cronies as a firewall against the increasingly diverse and urban population. There is a lot of evidence to back this up - from Milwaukee being rated the most segregated city in America to the real reason the train was cancelled, to the hard conservative and angry teabag suburbs that rim the greater metropolitan area like a massive resettlement ring, an inverse Soweto.

          The biggest "divide and conquer" preys on racial anxieties. Walker's one brilliance is his understanding of these manipulative strategies. He seems like a nice boy, a real Eagle Scout, and he projects solid American Values as he is incorporating a massive upward redistribution of wealth.

          After all, this was the playbook of the entire recent election. I've been appalled (as we all should be) at how close Romney actually got. Wisconsin is the testing grounds for this post Citizens United world. And it has mostly worked. The fact that the national Republicans are in disarray is my biggest intellectual pleasure in months... yet that won't slow down the locals. I think it will make them even more extreme and aggressive.

          So, what do we do? Do we move away, perhaps to Vermont? Do we surround ourselves with only ourselves? I, personally, choose to fight. Hence the Playground Legends (now defunct) and OLB. If you choose to fight, just be sure to make if fun, interesting and engaging. Otherwise it is a bitter experience.

          And with all that said, I love this state more than I ever thought I would. It is worth salvaging.

          •  I'm not leaving either (4+ / 0-)

            I want my state back.

            You're right, though.  If you listen to Walkers public remarks, there's a lot of coded racism.  And you only have to look at his staff and appointees to know that he's a racist.  

            That's the dog whistle that far too many people still respond to.  Sadly, instead of people becoming more inclusive and accepting, we're waiting for them to die off.

            There already is class warfare in America. Unfortunately, the rich are winning.

            by Puddytat on Thu Nov 08, 2012 at 07:46:19 PM PST

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            •  I really, really appreciate your (2+ / 0-)
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              extended response to my mini-outta-state rant.

              I love your State as much as any Coloradoan can. Door County is Great! Eagle Lake! I rode my bicycle from the Iron Range to Manitowac. I ate curds in Lake o' Lakes(and 10 other places). I spent a bit of time in Milwaukee County not in the city--in Wauwatosa. Is there another city in the county besides that?
              I met some great folks, and it was BEAUTIFUL. People are nice--but I'm a very pale 50 y/o guy. Even in 'tossa, I could feel the hatred for the blacks 5-8 miles up the road. There was an urban fear about the place at Miller Park. (By the way...the cemetary next door to there is rockin! Spend an afternoon walking around there-you'll appreciate what a flu influenza can is as nice of an old cemetary as you'll find, and it is huge with 200 yr old trees and gorgeous crypts and 120-150 y/o head stones.) Anyway-there was no reason for any fear. It was safe, clean, and full of decent folks but people acted like they were about to get mugged at any second. Weird. Your Soweto analagy was spot on. There is a street, a main blvd that you drive down to get to down town-I don't remember it's name. But I swear, when you cross from the County into the City the world changes. A clear line of demarcation. It was sad. It was also like being in the South and passing from the white part of town to the black side of town--the line was clear. It was also clear that as an outsider I was not to interfere with the 'way things are here'. I know how it is that way in many, many places but I still found that odd in Wisconsin. The fact that cheeseheads keep electing repub's simply confounds me, because that doesn't square with the folks I actually met.

              Thanks for your interaction with me, and addressing my questions--that's sorta what I expect of a real Wisconsin cheddar eater!

              "The better I know people, the more I like my dog."

              by Thinking Fella on Thu Nov 08, 2012 at 08:59:15 PM PST

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