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  •  Agreed. (3+ / 0-)
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    sunbro, dennis1958, Wary

    Just saying, the point is to squeeze as much out of the upcoming term as possible, not to win the 2014 elections.  If we do win, all the better, but we have to be realistic about the motivations of midterm voters and the vast, continuing financial advantages of the GOP.  All we proved with this election is that a superb Democratic President with vast grassroots support can defeat wall-to-wall right-wing propaganda.  That's not a recipe for robust, ongoing progress, nor will it be until it's enough for a mediocre Democrat to achieve the same results.

    "They fear this man. They know he will see farther than they, and he will bind them with ancient logics." -The stoner guy in The Cabin in the Woods

    by Troubadour on Sat Nov 10, 2012 at 01:26:38 PM PST

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    •  You are most correct (1+ / 0-)
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      Larsstephens

      I watched Ralph Reed today spout off the 1o's of  millions religious voters he rallied in this election AND he also reminded Stan Greenberg Dem pollster he KNOWS that Dems will NOT come out in 2014 NO MATTER WHAT because the youth voters, the African American voters and others are notorious for NOT voting in non Presidential mid term elections.

      This diary totally fails to mention the fact that hundreds of bills were passed by a Dem House only to be obstructed and to die in the Dem controlled Senate. Cap and Trade, Dream act to name a couple off top of my head.

      Also of most importance long term, well into the future is a SCOTUS appointment in second term. The Dems keeping even slight control of the Senate is of utmost importance to prevent a long term annihilation of any progressiveness for a lifetime of many posting here now.  SIX extreme conservative SCOTUS appointments would totally annihilate  what left of the New Deal, etc.

      I do think we can hold onto the Senate at least in 2014.

      Re-Elect President Barack Obama & RECALL GOP 2012

      by Wary on Sat Nov 10, 2012 at 05:03:06 PM PST

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      •  Thats another thing to be mad about (2+ / 0-)
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        we had the Senate, just as today. We didn't change the fillibuster rules then, but NOW we think we will?
        Woulda been helpful back then eh?
        No I didn't directly mention those bills. I considered them covered under 'hard job' and 'do better'.
        Is their job to get things done or make excuses?

        Again. I'm on our side, I want us to win in 2014. I have a clue how important it is.
        But if you want to say that our side stayed home because they always do, according to that puke Reed. I'll have to respectfully disagree. I think we lost votes over the health care debate and the mandate and a feeling the Dems didn't have the back bone to fight for us.
        If you can prove me mistaken, I'll stand corrected and thank you for enlightening me.

        •  Have you heard the GOP CONTROLS (0+ / 0-)

          The House?

          FACT fewer people vote in mid terms than in Presidential years--that's just a FACT!

          Re-Elect President Barack Obama & RECALL GOP 2012

          by Wary on Sun Nov 11, 2012 at 08:24:33 AM PST

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