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  •  Anti-obamacare would be a gross misrepresentation (1+ / 0-)
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    2laneIA

    of my position. Being upset that I was hoping for AT LEAST a debate on single payer and being unhappy about helping people like McGuire amass fortunes.
    Is NOT the same thing as being anti-obamacare

    •  i guess that when you wrote this: (0+ / 0-)

      Count yourself lucky I didn't vote against you or just, didn't vote at all in 2010. I was pretty unhappy with you folks.
       I mean really, you have the House, the Senate AND the Presidency, and we end up with a law saying people MUST support the lifestyle of health care executive leeches like Bill McGuire?

      that you were anti Obamacare.  you are saying that you are not, so, i believe you.

      however

      i REALLY wish that you and other like you who keep characterizing the majorities we had for a few months after the 2008 election as if we had progressive majorities.  we did not.  we are a big tent party with people from all 50 states and many of those states are NOT as progressive as others.  and that means that the elected representatives from that state SHOULD NOT be either.  

      i really don't understand why that is so hard to understand and accept.  it's one thing to expect that other states don't prevent your state from progress (i am from WA and we just legalized recreational pot) but it's another thing to demand that other states take part in the progress in your state.  we are actually 50 states and we have local governments.  i don't want what Bloomberg did in NYC to be forced on my city or my state.  it works for them, good, but leave us the fuck alone.

      i care about the people in this country.  i am grateful for the progress made on health care and i am HAPPY to pay extra money to some fuck face millionaire if that is what it takes right now to save lives.  fuck the money they get.  they can enjoy it while it last, cause it won't last all that long.  each step of progress leads to another as long as we don't weaken ourselves by infighting.  which is what happened in 2010.  WE scared off the new voters and minority voters from voting mid term because we shit on Obama and Democrats for 2 years straight instead of having a view of the long game and supporting them so we kept our VERY NEW AND FRAGILE AND UNTESTED coalition together.  i hope we've learned that goddamn lesson.

      anyway.  as i said in another comment.  i am probably a little too intense, because i'm still not transitioned from fighting mode for this election.  so, sorry about the fucks.

      so long and thanks for all the fish

      by Anton Bursch on Sat Nov 10, 2012 at 10:27:30 PM PST

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      •  you make some good points here (1+ / 0-)
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        Anton Bursch

        I don't agree with all your conclusions but,
        I have been very upset with Baucus and your words have made me question whether I've placed to much of that anger on Dems in general.

        I'm a 'taxes buy civilization' guy. It makes me feel good that my taxes are helping others.

        I too am thankful for the good in Obamacare, and theres ALOT of good there. compared to where we were.
        But, I feel soo strongly that health insurance companies are a leech on the funding of a basic human right in our modern society that it angers me greatly to pay for their CEO compensation. Especially given that their quest for profits lead them to deny coverage and thereby care, of people who are suffering. I find that appalling and outrageous. I'm a universal care guy so no, I'm not totally happy with Obamacare, not by a long shot.

        Don't write no more Anton I gotta go to sleep man! lol
        cya next time

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