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  •  Define "Overly" (2+ / 0-)
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    GoogleBonhoeffer, artmartin

    He has to be "bi-partisan" to an extent, he is POTUS of ALL OF US. And it's in his nature to find solutions that give everyone something.
    And truly, we all have been asking for a reduction in Partisanship, he's tried to deliver and every time he does we then jump all over him for "caving".
    Particularly on this issue, we have to get our own understanding and messaging straight.
    Do we want less Partisanship, but only if it means that we get our agenda delivered whole and unalloyed?
    That would be the Republican definition of compromise, no?
    Or is it that we want less extremism on the part of the GOP? And how do we get there? By party discipline and parliamentary tricks? Also from the GOP playbook.
    We need to have this discussion and quickly. The GOP is already on the ground and running, Boner headfaked yesterday and the Media fell for it (of course) that he was "willing to be led", what they didn't report was that he was willing to be led as long as balancing the budget came entirely from cuts and that the taxes on the rich were off the table. In other words, they wrapped the same package up in new paper and expect that no one will notice, same same.

    If I ran this circus, things would be DIFFERENT!

    by CwV on Fri Nov 09, 2012 at 06:16:33 AM PST

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    •  Overly would be conceding any leverage he (2+ / 0-)
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      might have as an opening gambit. A favorite move of the President and Dems in Congress.

      •  You have a distorted view of leverage (0+ / 0-)

        Any major action has to come through the House of Representatives where they still have a majority.  If the Republicans vote in block as they have, everything stops dead.  The bully pulpit still goes through the right wing media and will get distorted and cherry picked.  The vast majority of House members truly don't care if they lose their house seats in 2014 because their benefactors are most likely guaranteeing them financial bliss for their stonewalling.  

        Stating reality is not conceding anything.  Reality may not be what you want or expect.

        "A celibate clergy is an especially good idea, because it tends to suppress any hereditary propensity toward fanaticism." -- Carl Sagan

        by artmartin on Fri Nov 09, 2012 at 09:19:30 AM PST

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    •  Progressive policies help everyone (3+ / 0-)
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      Don midwest, shaharazade, orlbucfan

      Progressive policies help the poor and middle-class, but they also help everyone. A society without poverty and people dying for lack of healthcare is a healthier society for everyone. A fair and functioning economic system is better for everyone except for thieves and fraudsters -- and why would we want to help them? Compromising with greedy, selfish, self-centered racist jerks is not good for anyone -- even for them.

      Just look at how good things were for the wealthy throughout the 1950s and 60s. Everyone is now working harder and is less happy.

    •  the catfood commission, "i take john boner's word" (3+ / 0-)
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      don't make me explain 2+2 in detail

      2016: Clinton in Landslide Victory Over Christie!

      by memofromturner on Fri Nov 09, 2012 at 08:22:34 AM PST

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    •  A reduction of partisanship? (4+ / 0-)

      Would that be the grand bargain? That's not all people have been asking for. People are asking that the Dems. fight for 'we the people' for an economy that works for all of us..  Enough with the he's the president of everybody bs. He is but that doesn't mean he should implement the lunatic right wings policy and agenda. He won because a majority of people voted against the extremist Republican agenda. Leadership means leading and standing your ground against the extremists. Our system is partisan that's how it's set up. The Democrat's won so why allow the Republicans to implement their agenda and call it a bargain. What people want is a government that represents them their common good an economy that enables them to live decently.

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