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  •  The GOP now reminds me of Dems when I was young. (4+ / 0-)
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    Not so much as far as the bigotry and hatred go but in the sense of being really divided about how to achieve their goals or even agreeing on what their goals are.

    I remember what things were like for us after Sen. George McGovern lost to Richard Nixon in the landslide of 1972. President Carter aside, our party seemed to be wandering in the wilderness for several election cycles. Mondale was downright embarrassing.

    It's like the Rethuglicans have reached the stage where the smart ones know they have a problem and yet are being stymied by the charlatans and clowns like Grover Norquist and Rush Limbaugh among them. They need to understand that, until some of them -- or at least ONE of them -- stand up to these idiots, their party is going to find it more and more difficult to win a national election again.

    I must admit to having somewhat mixed feelings about all this chaos on the other side. It is almost hilarious to see how clueless and out of touch with reality their demagogues and entertainers are. OTOH, a functioning democracy needs a competition of good but different ideas about the proper role of government to stay healthy. As an independent progressive, I get a kick out of seeing the GOP go down into the flames of defeat. As an American, I wish they would come to their senses as principled conservatives I disagree with but could still respect.

    Maybe it's time to just retire the Rethuglican Party altogether and start a new one; a party that's less driven by anger and fear and more willing to take on the role of a loyal opposition capable of making a constructive contribution to policy issues in a civil manner.

    I'm not gonna hold my breath waiting for it to happen, though.

    •  Consider this: (2+ / 0-)
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      Yesterday kos posted a diary about the romney campaign being completely flummoxed by their loss:

      [T]hey believed the public/media polls were skewed - they thought those polls oversampled Democrats and didn't reflect Republican enthusiasm. They based their own internal polls on turnout levels more favorable to Romney.
      http://www.dailykos.com/...

      Now you can't tell me that there weren't people on the Romney campaign staff that knew this was complete bullshit, but never said anything. Or they were ignored.
      What does that say about the current Republican party?

      “We are not a nation that says ‘don’t ask, don’t tell.’ We are a nation that says ‘out of many, we are one.’” -Barack Obama

      by skohayes on Fri Nov 09, 2012 at 03:10:22 PM PST

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      •  I heard on RMS that OFA sampled 29000+ for (4+ / 0-)

        thier internal polls which gave them a far more accurate snapshot.

        If you insist on living in a padded bubble you don't look for real facts... you look for people who will give you the ones you like.

        How can you tell when Rmoney is lying? His lips are moving. Fear is the Mind Killer

        by boophus on Fri Nov 09, 2012 at 03:49:29 PM PST

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      •  I heard that OFA ran polls sampling up to 29000 (0+ / 0-)

        voters so thier internal polls gave them a far more accurate snapshot ( most polls were between 1000 and 1500). Where there was weakness they ramped up the grassroots efforts...

        If you insist on living in a padded bubble you don't look for real facts... you look for people who will give you the ones you like.

        How can you tell when Rmoney is lying? His lips are moving. Fear is the Mind Killer

        by boophus on Fri Nov 09, 2012 at 03:52:17 PM PST

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        •  The Romney campaign polled me about 25 times (2+ / 0-)
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          I am registered as an independent in a swing state (Colorado). I got calls from probably eight or ten different polling agencies, but the most frequent came from the Romney campaign (i think it was called Study America). I always answered that i was voting for Obama. I think they kept calling me back to see if they'd somehow convinced me to change my vote.

          I expect that they were willfully ignoring their own polls, in favor of the turnout argument.

          Follow me on Twitter: @denverunionguy

          by Richard Myers on Sat Nov 10, 2012 at 02:36:53 AM PST

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    •  Our primaries will do in a pinch. (0+ / 0-)

      The war here between "bots" and "purists" offers plenty of drama, and we represent the left two-thirds of the Democratic party.  We might even be able to treat the nation to a three-way in 2016:  

      1.  Hillary Clinton, who would most clearly "deserve" the title based on experience as Senator and SecState, and has any number of chips to cash in with Barack Obama.  She also has four home states (NY, AR, IL, PA):  NY, AR and IL for the primaries and PA for the general.  

      2.  Cory Booker, SuperMayor!  It would not take much to convince New Jersey's Democratic establishment to attempt to kick Mayor Booker upstairs.  He's also a friend to Wall Street but not the teachers' unions, so DLC-type money would probably go his way.  His habit of rescuing people from their burning houses won't hurt.

      3.  Elizabeth Warren, who is the progressives' heroine and death to malpractice on Wall Street.  She'll have precisely the experience Obama had in the Senate, coupled with political chops from a battle with Scott Brown.

      "Politics should be the part-time profession of every citizen who would protect the rights and privileges of free people and who would preserve what is good and fruitful in our national heritage." -- Lucille Ball

      by Yamaneko2 on Sat Nov 10, 2012 at 02:09:30 AM PST

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