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  •  "is it even worth it" (4+ / 0-)
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    Therapy, Crabby Abbey, Lujane, Naniboujou

    It can be, they are you family and if your really get down to it helping turn them towards the light is the ultimate form of canvassing for Democrats and progressive ideas.

    The flip side is you probably realize it is next to hopeless and feel the emotional and even physical drain from the effort.

    Maybe the best way is to simply keep living a good life as you choose. Perhaps some of them will wake up to the fact that you (and they) haven't been "whisked off to FEMA death camps" that the UN hasn't taken their guns and sharia law isn't being imposed on them. Maybe the bubble will pop for them.

    To me progress is not so much a goal as it is a process and I believe it will not follow a straight course. Remember, the drops of water that form the river may not take the shortest path but they will still reach the ocean.

    by ontheleftcoast on Fri Nov 09, 2012 at 09:10:01 AM PST

    •  Sadly, we were just thinking (3+ / 0-)
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      ontheleftcoast, Lujane, Naniboujou

      we might invite them down for the holidays this year. Now I'm not so sure that is a good idea, because I know my dad will say something about Obama. Maybe if I just make it clear we don't want it brought up...

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      by Therapy on Fri Nov 09, 2012 at 09:24:43 AM PST

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      •  Why are you planning to invite them? (4+ / 0-)
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        profundo, Terre, Its a New Day, Shippo1776

        They don't like you and you don't actually like them--your wife sure has no reason to and you are just, as far as I can see, bending to custom.

        Ask yourself this: if your parents weren't your parents would you like them? REspect them? Learn from them? Obviously not because your wife's father was "your real father." Don't let sentiment blind you to the fact that your parents and you have both "voted with your feet" for years.

        Can your parents be saved politically? Obviously not. They prefer to live the way they live. They prefer to be lied to, they prefer to live in ignorance, they prefer to spread hateful rumors about their President--about your President. Which is by way of insisting, in fact, that you don't know what you are talking about, that you don't know the world you live in. When their facts are falsified do they do what you do and say "hm, I need to reconsider my opinon?" or do they become more entrenched?

        To the extent that they have conflated Christianity, Ayn Rand, Right wing Demagoguery, Paternalism, Authoritarianism, and Jingoism is there anything left, underneath that all, that is worth saving?

        If you consent to be in a relationship with an Authoritarian you are going to have to accept a subordinate position because that kind of person/parent assumes that the child is always the child. It doesn't sound like you are willing to always be a loyal footsoldier in their crazy crank war. So how can any kind of family event go well? Your parents are going to attack you on Obama because they can't brook the opposition.

        aimai

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