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  •  What is "Issue 2"? (0+ / 0-)

    Please let us know what that is in reference to? Referendum repeal of what?

    •  issue 2 was.... (4+ / 0-)

      an initiative to take the redistricting process in Ohio out of the hands of the legislature, and put in in the hands of a panel of citizens.  Would've gone a long way to un-gerrymander the wacked-out districts we currently have.

      Unfortunately, Husted abused his power as SoS to, at first, submit a total bullshit summary of Issue 2 to go on the ballot.  He got slapped down by our (right-wing) Supreme Court, but then put a bunch of legalese on the ballot (the summary was two pages long) ... and the initiative did not win.  (Better details from OhioDem1 are here... )

      All the children of your children's children, do you ever think what they're going to find? Make tomorrow, today...

      by willy mugobeer on Fri Nov 09, 2012 at 06:46:39 PM PST

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    •  Issue 2 proposed taking redristricting out of the (0+ / 0-)

      legislature's hands and turning it over to an even-less-responsive-to-the-voters appointed 'non'-partisan commission. It was thoroughly rejected. It had the support of the same kind of progressive that thinks the NPVP is sociologically consequenceless and constitutionally unchallengeable. In the age of Citizens United, after a century of corporate personhood, along with decades of ALEC-purchased legislatures, it is a sure-fire way for plutocrats to more firmly purchase, game and control the redristricting mechanism of American politics, because it leaves fewer and more obscure persons to pay off.

      I referenced your reply to Markos in my comment to MB, elsewhere in this diary thread. I found it brilliant.

      Enough fossil fuel remains on Earth to warm it 6 degrees C by 2100 AD if it is all used. A +6 C planet will only sustain half a billion humans. Human population will rise to 9 billion by 2050. Any questions?

      by davidincleveland on Fri Nov 09, 2012 at 09:32:57 PM PST

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      •  Yea I had my doubts. (0+ / 0-)

        I found myself wondering exactly who would appoint these impartial saints.  My party said vote yes, and I did, but with deep doubts.

        Not like it mattered.

        Early to rise and early to bed Makes a man healthy, wealthy, and dead. --Not Benjamin Franklin

        by Boundegar on Fri Nov 09, 2012 at 10:29:21 PM PST

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      •  Recounts (0+ / 0-)

        I'm also concerned about what would happen in a really close election.  Say the difference in PV was under 1%.  Do we have to recount the whole country?  There is some goodness in a roll-up system that isolates uncertainties.  I wouldn't mind seeing each states EV split proportionately to its popular vote.  But tying to CDs is a disaster because of how political districting is.  

        Would be nice to make districting much less political.  A computer could easily assemble districts with the minimum separation between people.  Or maybe districts could be something other than geographical.  Divide by age groups; that would be interesting.  

        I'm still mad about Nixon.

        by J Orygun on Sat Nov 10, 2012 at 07:09:57 PM PST

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