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  •  it's one thing to say PO had a subpar 1st debate.. (1+ / 0-)
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    it's another to say,"he didn't want to do it because he thought it was beneath him."  i hope to god i don't read any more of that made-up, mind-reading, arm-chair 'reality' today.  if i want to watch Faux, i'd turn it on.

    "From single strands of light we build our webs." ~kj

    by kj in missouri on Fri Nov 09, 2012 at 03:53:30 PM PST

    •  Since you are linking to me (5+ / 0-)

      The President was unprepared, point-blank, for the first debate. He let down his supporters, and he knew it. He accepted the blame, adjusted his performance, and did better on the second and third debates. He wasn't burying his head in the sand and insisting that he did fine like Romney and their supporters did in the second and third debates.

      •  Faux Redux (0+ / 0-)

        and potatoes grow on trees so that's the same thing.  
        /disgust

        "From single strands of light we build our webs." ~kj

        by kj in missouri on Fri Nov 09, 2012 at 04:09:40 PM PST

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      •  That's pretty much the way it was (3+ / 0-)
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        Not an unusual situation for sitting presidents running for re-election, it has happened before.  

        It's a little difficult stepping out of the "bubble" and debating an opponent on national tv when you're used to making your own decisions and are buffered from public scrutiny or questioning.  

        I agree, Obama accepted reality and did what he needed to do. His performance in the next debate was about 300% better than the first time.

        It was a scary moment in the campaign, the only time when I was truly concerned that he might lose.

        "Mitt Romney is Dick Cheney with more charisma"

        by Betty Pinson on Fri Nov 09, 2012 at 04:19:52 PM PST

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        •  it was Faux News Bubble Head (1+ / 0-)
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          to say that the President of the United States thought prepping for a second term was beneath him.   i'll push back against that as strongly as i would a remark from Ann Coulter, if she posted here.

          "From single strands of light we build our webs." ~kj

          by kj in missouri on Fri Nov 09, 2012 at 04:37:17 PM PST

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          •  Did they? Not surprising (1+ / 0-)
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            Though I never watch Fox, I'm not surprised they would say something like that.

            I agree w/ the diary here, a major assist for Obama was not just his improved performance in the next debate, but Mitt's failure to anticipate it.  

            Apparently, Mitt thought he was a shoo-in. He ended up running the same game and  let Obama beat him handily in the second debate.

            "Mitt Romney is Dick Cheney with more charisma"

            by Betty Pinson on Fri Nov 09, 2012 at 04:46:59 PM PST

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            •  No, Fox didn't (0+ / 0-)

              it was posted on this site in one of Kos' diaries and early enough to derail a conversation that might have been worth having.

              whatever happened, Mitt's entire strategy, from start to finish, was to say whatever his team told him to say.  to be whoever the situation wanted him to be.   and that was his undoing because eventually, people really do notice it when one of the main characters on stage takes on different personas from act to act.

              echo chambers in themselves aren't bad things.  they can push memes.   if we base our echos and memes on facts and good policy, we won't lose elections.   if we base our echos on arm-chair analysis and realities of our own making, we might as well go work for Karl.

              that's my story and i'm sticking to it.   @;-)

              "From single strands of light we build our webs." ~kj

              by kj in missouri on Fri Nov 09, 2012 at 04:57:28 PM PST

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            •  another example (0+ / 0-)

              since i'm typing away... the "War on Women" meme.  that was spread far and wide and far beyond this blog.... although this blog did a fantastic job of pushing it out there.   i had doubt that the facts behind the meme would penetrate beyond progressives, and i was sort of amazed when it went mainstream.   add the batshit crazy assists by Tea Party senate candidates and boom, that meme was signed, sealed and delivered.   it's now an established fact and in the forefront of people's conversations.  

              same sex marriage, too.  such a far distance since 2004.  that's the sort of meme's i want help create and push.  not some gobblygook from posters about what motivates Barak Obama.  i don't care what motivates anyone.  i like results.   :-)

              off soapbox:   homemade cheese yogurt and salsa and chips and veggies.   :-)

              "From single strands of light we build our webs." ~kj

              by kj in missouri on Fri Nov 09, 2012 at 05:05:39 PM PST

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