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  •  You are giving mixes messages about this. (2+ / 0-)
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    blueoasis, mahakali overdrive

    Was it good that we freaked out over the first debate or bad? It seems like you think it was good in this diary, but you clearly said it was bad in another.

    Maybe your argument is more nuanced and you think it was both good and bad. Personally, I think it was good. It helped Pr. Obama make the decision to step it up.

    "If you don't sin, then Jesus died for nothing!" (on a sign at a Mardi Gras parade in New Orleans)

    by ranger995 on Fri Nov 09, 2012 at 03:58:26 PM PST

    •  It was bad that some of us went apeshit. (3+ / 0-)

      It was good that most of us knew Obama did poorly.

      Code Monkey like freedom / Code Monkey like peace and justice too
      Code Monkey very nerdy man / With big warm fuzzy bleeding heart
      Code Monkey like you!

      Formerly known as Jyrinx.

      by Code Monkey on Fri Nov 09, 2012 at 04:11:16 PM PST

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      •  Having some people go apeshit was necessary (4+ / 0-)
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        Code Monkey, ranger995, bdop4, Laconic Lib

        People's reactions are going to exist on a spectrum. There are always going to be a few voices on the extreme end, that's just pure probability.

        As long as no one is afraid to speak his mind, and so everyone speaks candidly, the movement as a whole will not delude itself. The big problem with the GOP is not just that willful self-delusion, but FEAR. Conservatives are afraid to tell each other truths, afraid to deliver bad news. Liberals are less afraid.

        •  It was more than just a few voices and it included (3+ / 0-)

          the MSNBC pundits who set the tone for all of the debate analysis.  They could have had reasoned critique and they didn't.  They freaked out.  

          I also think before we go patting ourselves on the back for being reality based we should acknowledge that it is no more reality based to have a complete meltdown over a poor first debate performance by an incumbent than it is to lie to ourselves and say he did well.  

          I saw far more of the former than the later.  

          •  You didn't see it from Kos, though, (1+ / 0-)
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            mahakali overdrive

            nor from other FPers here.

            Code Monkey like freedom / Code Monkey like peace and justice too
            Code Monkey very nerdy man / With big warm fuzzy bleeding heart
            Code Monkey like you!

            Formerly known as Jyrinx.

            by Code Monkey on Fri Nov 09, 2012 at 04:30:50 PM PST

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