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  •  No, I don't believe that. (5+ / 0-)

    Anyone who permanently turned against Obama after the first debate was merely looking for a reason to do so. And had Obama done well in that debate, the MSM/GOP would have fixated on a word or phrase or exhale and that would have been their turning point. Romney sucked in the first debate. He was rude, pushy, untruthful and unpresidential. They would have found a way to boost Romney, no matter what happened in that debate.

    We gave the Romney campaign hundreds of millions of dollars and all we got was this stupid t-shirt! - The Koch Brothers.

    by kitebro on Fri Nov 09, 2012 at 04:24:00 PM PST

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    •  Then how do you explain Obama's rise after (1+ / 0-)
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      the VP and second debate?

      To believe that markets determine value is to believe that milk comes from plastic bottles. Bromley (1985)

      by sneakers563 on Fri Nov 09, 2012 at 04:30:30 PM PST

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      •  Sam Wang of Princeton Election Consortium's (0+ / 0-)

        blog suggested that Romney's improvement in the polls after the first debate was a bounce and was caused more by enthusiasm among Republican voters than by "switching".  He cites a state poll in Wisconsin which showed more likely Republican voters than earlier but very little change in "undecided" voters.  He also noted that the upswing toward Obama, or the "debounce" as he calls it, which we saw after the VP debate was too soon to have been directly caused by it (it takes a few days to process and publish poll data).

        In other words, the first debate made a lot of apathetic Republicans get really excited and want to run out and vote for their guy but it wore off quickly.

        If this is, in fact, the correct explanation, Republicans may have shot themselves in the foot by limiting early voting in Ohio, Florida and elsewhere.

    •  Totally agree with you kitebro (2+ / 0-)
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      and thanks for pointing it out.

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