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  •  If they had simply saved their money. . . (10+ / 0-)

    They would more than come out ahead in the extra taxes they paid.  We are talking 4% raise.

    Just goes to show that being rich does not equate to being savy.

    Blessed are the peacemakers, the poor, the meek and the sick. Message to Repug Fundies: "DO you really wonder "what would Jesus do?" I didn't think so.

    by 4CasandChlo on Fri Nov 09, 2012 at 01:12:30 PM PST

    •  I've thought the same thing.. (7+ / 0-)

      I suspect many of them are consumed by anger that they "the makers" would have to pay taxes that go in part to "the takers."

      As a member of Courtesy Kos, I am dedicated to civility and respect for all kossacks, regardless of their opinions, affiliations, or cliques.

      by joedemocrat on Fri Nov 09, 2012 at 01:17:55 PM PST

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      •  According to Romney even he has no idea (4+ / 0-)

        what his effective rate actually is in any given year. So what would a few extra percentage points really mean to these people? Truth is most of them would never even notice. Never mind the actual good that it would go toward...or the sense of fairness it would bring after a decade of record low taxes on them.

        •  With these kabillionaires (0+ / 0-)

          it's not a matter of need, but greed.

          I believe that there is something fundamentally fucked up with their psyche that causes them lie, cheat, steal, pollute and indirectly kill to make or save one more dollar without even the trace of a conscience.

    •  I wonder if they paid more in failing (2+ / 0-)
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      political donations per rich person than they would have to pay in taxes.

      Patriotism may be the last refuge of scoundrels, but religion is assuredly the first.

      by StrayCat on Sat Nov 10, 2012 at 03:56:05 PM PST

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      •  It Won't Cost Them Anything (1+ / 0-)
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        Remember that Obama wants to LOWER corporate tax rates that he thinks are "too high" so all that will happen is that accountants for the top 1% will shift their pay slightly from cash (on which they MIGHT have to pay an extra 3% in taxes) to dividends or stock or other forms of long-term capital gains on which they only pay 15%.

        Or, they keep the money in the corporation, and pay lower taxes on that. Either way the rich will find tax loopholes. Their overall taxes WON'T go up.

        We'll be stuck with less Medicare and Medicaid, and Social Security cost of living adjustments because of "shared sacrifice" and they will have some cosmetic rearranging of "tax loopholes" and some minor adjustment to top marginal rates that will in the end mean nothing for the rich.

        And we're supposed to be happy with that deal?

        I say NO WAY IN HELL! We'd all better start bombarding our representatives now! NO deal that cuts ONE PENNY from social security, medicare or medicaid.

        In fact, no spending cuts other than military should be made at all.

    •  James Carville paraphrased Winston Churchill (7+ / 0-)

      On Bill Mayer's show Friday - "Never has so much been spent by so few to accomplish so little."

      Got a big laugh.

      Mrick

      •  I hope this means we won't be seeing Rove much (1+ / 0-)
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        To be frank, looking at Karl Rove's smug face, growing increasingly fat and self-satisfied, is no fun.

        For me the best outcome from this election would be for Rove to be recognized as a conman, who has been taking tens of millions of dollars in fees, for services that have been counter-productive.

        A bold claim?  Think of those long lines waiting to vote.  Think they went out there for fun?  No, they went out there because the GOP (Generally Old Pills) Party had been so obvious about wanting to steal the vote by making it hard/impossible for many voters to cast their votes.  An accident?  Nope, a very well-planned conspiracy, that in many other countries would be grounds for an indictment of a horde of Rove's homies under a RICO action.

        When are we going to hold these bastards accountable for their crimes?  When Hell freezes over?  This is OUR democracy, OUR nation, OUR rights they tried to steal.

        Fuck 'em.  Never again.

        If trying to cast a fraudulent vote can get you up to two years in jail, what should the penalty be for trying to prevent fifty thousand people from being able to vote?  

        A pat on the back?  A stern lecture?  Getting a finger shaken at them?

    •  If they can afford to lose this much money they (5+ / 0-)

      can afford to pay higher taxes.  It is just that simple.

      Sure, their pissed away millions created jobs in media and communications and PR, but still.  Paying taxes creates jobs too--in education, health care, construction, public works, research.  Much more socially productive than 30 sec  ads.  Soak the rich and spare our ears and eyes.

      The scientific uncertainty doesn't mean that climate change isn't actually happening.

      by Mimikatz on Sat Nov 10, 2012 at 04:38:45 PM PST

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    •  Money is power (1+ / 0-)
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      Once they get past financial security, however they define it, everything else is either score keeping or a way to get and hold more and more power.

      Assume 2-3 Billion was spent on this year's election. That would have been enough to fund 3,000 start-up companies with a million each which would have led to additional financials. Assume a 100 jobs each and there would have been an immediate impact of 300,000 jobs. If 1% became mid-size companies are big, it could easily been seed capital for a million + jobs in 5-10 years.

      This election showed me , more than anything else, how the horded wealth of the .oo1% is wasted . Literally pissed on the ground.

    •  The money is worthless unless spent. (0+ / 0-)

      We should be grateful they spent a billion on political propaganda and that the majority of the voters were not deceived, as they were in 2010.
      The question we need to ask is how come so many people who accumulate lots of money are apparently antagonistic towards their fellow man and out to deceive and distress. And the answer might well be that the accumulation is obsessive and a sign of an ungenerous person, to begin with, whose main interst lies in accumulation to the point of depriving others of their rights.
      Deprivators are people who deprive others, not because they want what they are after taking, but because they want to deprive and inflict the "less than lethal" injury that causes. We should consider that they are sadists who have discovered how to torture indirectly and avoid being held to account for their unjustified assaults. Indeed, they do it under cover of law. Our legal system has countenanced that since the beginning.  Slavery was a legal status. Unions can be declared illegal. Children are legally considered property -- i.e. owned. All sorts of private, personal attributes and natural behaviors are subject to being ruled out of bounds and punished by depriving individuals of the necessities of life. Indeed, a failure to obey (work for someone) incurs the deprivation of food ("no free lunch"). What the big money donors were after was to enhance the system of legal deprivation.
      In other words, they used our money to a bad purpose and for that reason alone deserve to have it taxed away.

      We organize governments to provide benefits and prevent abuse.

      by hannah on Sun Nov 11, 2012 at 01:45:03 AM PST

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