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  •  love the diary except (29+ / 0-)

    for the last picture.  I think we do better when we don't stereotype anyone, including older white voters.  

    I had an interesting discussion with someone this week.  I live in Kentucky where there is a lot of opposition to Obama.  The person I was talking with was someone I might assume bought into this for reasons I won't go into.  But really the only reason he said he couldn't vote for Obama was because he had read on the internet that the health care law was bringing "socialism" to Medicare by creating bureaucrats who would deny care (aka death panels).  When I explained reality to him he thanked me profusely for giving him the information.  He says, "I think I've been misinformed."  

    •  Agree, have seen a lot of "last picture" comments (11+ / 0-)

      on site last few days. Kos is my main source of political info.
      Didn't recommend the diary because of same.
      "Another Older white voter" very happy President Obama won.

    •  Agree (7+ / 0-)

      I could fit in that picture (except that, not being filled with hate, I am better looking than them..). If you look at the picture diary from yesterday, (reactions to Romney's loss)  all the Romney supporters looked the same as the old folks above.......even the picture of the boy who was maybe 8 years old. Hate does that to a person......

      In this world of sin and sorrow there is always something to be thankful for; as for me, I rejoice that I am not a Republican. ~ Mencken

      by royce on Fri Nov 09, 2012 at 04:38:55 PM PST

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    •  True, but don't ignore reality altogether (1+ / 0-)
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      Well, sometimes generalizations persist because they contain a grain of truth.

      According to a CNN exit poll, Romney got 61% and Obama got 39% of the vote of white voters over age 65. As a point of reference, that's almost identical to the election results for the state of Alabama: 61% Romney, 38% Obama.

      In other words: White, 65+ = Alabama.

      Arkansas is the only state in the former Confederacy where Obama got a smaller percentage of the vote, 37%. That kind of gives you some context for how conservative white older voters tend to be.

      The fact Obama did get 39% of the white, 65+ vote does support your point that the stereotype in question doesn't fit too closely. That said, it's still fair to say that the people pictured are among the most conservative major demographic groups out there.

      Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read. - Groucho Marx

      by Joe Bob on Fri Nov 09, 2012 at 08:38:23 PM PST

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      •  That should have been a picture of white women (0+ / 0-)

        if you don't want to ignore reality all together.

        CNN's exit polls show that people 65 and over voted 44% for Obama.  They show that white women voted 42% for Obama.  I'm not sure which exit poll you were reading, but those numbers are from today's CNN.com page.

        My subject line was actually somewhat snark, as I think that 44% and 42% represent whopping big numbers of people that shouldn't be generalized.  The picture should actually have been of a tea party rally, signs included.  That would have been a meaningful representation.

      •  Obama got 39% of the white vote, period. (0+ / 0-)

        If that was his margin with older whites as well, I don't think we can draw any specific conclusions about the older folk.

        Full disclosure, I'm not there yet (just 53), but I fully expect that I'll be voting for progressive Democrats as long as I live.

        Until the economy recovers, I'll settle for cheap laughs

        by Clyde the Cat on Sat Nov 10, 2012 at 05:08:36 AM PST

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    •  It looks like Yes We Can, Tippecanoe! (1+ / 0-)
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      If all the elderly white people who worked for Democrats in Indiana stayed home, Richard Mourdock would be our new Senator.

      "Politics should be the part-time profession of every citizen who would protect the rights and privileges of free people and who would preserve what is good and fruitful in our national heritage." -- Lucille Ball

      by Yamaneko2 on Sat Nov 10, 2012 at 12:15:26 AM PST

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    •  I recc'd, but agree about the last picture. (1+ / 0-)
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      That picture misrepresents roughly 18 million people.  As I pointed out below, white women voted for Obama at a lower percentage than >65 did, but we're not seeing group pictures of them being used to represent ignorance.

      I believe the diarist actually meant to depict the tea party, and probably should have used a recognizable picture of them in the diary.

      The fact that the tea party is mostly old and white does not imply that most old white people are members of it.

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