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  •  Truth Doesn't Matter (16+ / 0-)

    Trust me, truth doesn't matter to the crowd which decided to oppose Obama.  I encountered a number of them during my canvassing in this campaign.  They spout talking points from Faux Noise, which get dismantled one by one.  They just dismiss the truth and skip over to the next argument.  They're as slippery as eels, always moving and shifting.  Once they get pinned down, they get angry.  They don't want to know the truth and they won't discuss what truly troubles them, because they're too embarrassed to admit it openly.

    "Love the Truth, defend the Truth, speak the Truth, and hear the Truth" - Jan Hus, d.1415 CE

    by PrahaPartizan on Fri Nov 09, 2012 at 11:30:06 PM PST

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    •  This has been building for over 20 years now (9+ / 0-)

      Since Rush came on the scene in the late 80s and Fox, O'Really,Hannity et al shortly thereafter. It always strikes me when talking to R's how well armed they are with their own facts that they picked up from the RW Noise Machine even when easily debunked, they then spew out another one. Blows my mind when seemingly nice intelligent people transform into propaganda channels right before my eyes. It's like a CULT has taken over their minds and they just can't help it. I wonder how many have been jolted back towards reality?

      •  Probably Not Very Many (0+ / 0-)

        I got into a discussion with one the Saturday before the Election.  He asked me what I thought the outcome would be.  I told him that I thought in the end Obama would win with about 300 EV and have a 2-3% PV advantage over Romney.  He pretty much went ballistic, asking how I could dispute the 7% lead Gallup was forecasting.  I told him that Gallup's methodology was flawed and mentioned the Marist poll reported that Friday.  He opined Marist had a liberal bias, and I told him that's funny because I had always felt Marist leaned right.  He then brought up Dick Morris's prediction.  I told him Morris hadn't been right in twenty years and that Nate Silver's analysis seemed more focused.  Nothing could break through the defense shields.  He wouldn't and couldn't make himself listen to any of it.  If most of them are like this fellow, they'll just continue to live in their own little universe as it wraps itself tighter and tighter until it evaporates like a small black hole when most of them pass on.  The politics of spite is not a pretty sight.

        "Love the Truth, defend the Truth, speak the Truth, and hear the Truth" - Jan Hus, d.1415 CE

        by PrahaPartizan on Sat Nov 10, 2012 at 02:51:27 PM PST

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      •  Some need to be deprogrammed like cult members (0+ / 0-)

        I am not exaggerating.

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