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    of the same coin.

    The affair was worse.  You can always just give someone a clearance so they cant talk.

    Twice in my career I have stumbled on to sensitive stuff.  Both times the powers that be decided the best thing to do was to "read me on" to the entire thing.  Once officially informed, I could be punished for revealing what I knew.  Done and done.

    It is well that war is so terrible -- lest we should grow too fond of it. Robert E. Lee

    by ksuwildkat on Fri Nov 09, 2012 at 06:13:21 PM PST

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    •  yep, exactly. (2+ / 0-)
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      And sometimes one can cross a boundary by making logical inferences from information they already had access to.  This is surprisingly easy to do.  

      As you said, the smart thing is to read someone into the compartment in question, at which point they're obligated to keep their moose shut.  

      BTW, one of the things that most impressed me about Obama going all the way back to when he was a candidate, is that he handles secrets by the book and is absolutely airtight.  Unlike the Bush Admin (e.g. Ahmed Chalabi informing Iran that we'd broken their crypto!  Good God!).

      Candidate Obama in 2008, when asked by CBS Sixty Minutes who he was considering as his running mate, said, "I'm not going to talk about that," and changed the subject without a hitch or a missed beat.  Anyone out there who ever had a clearance or knew someone who did, would have recognized what he did.  Right by the book. And I'm sure that got him some votes.  

      The Correspondents' Dinner the night before the Bin Laden op was absolutely classic.  Obama has the self-discipline of a United States Marine.  And it's darn good to know that he keeps the secrets that need to be kept.  

      One of the great things about the Obama administration, and something I dreaded losing if Romney had gotten in, is the sense that you can go to bed every night without having to worry about waking up to something like a 9/11 on the clock radio the next morning.

      Now we've got our future back.

      by G2geek on Fri Nov 09, 2012 at 06:34:31 PM PST

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      •  Amen (1+ / 0-)
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        As I said in a previous comment, The best thing about election night was knowing that my input to the next days national brief was NOT going to be briefed to Team R-Money.  

        During the foreign policy debate he came soooooo close to revealing classified information that I just about blew a gasket.  

        It is well that war is so terrible -- lest we should grow too fond of it. Robert E. Lee

        by ksuwildkat on Fri Nov 09, 2012 at 08:14:05 PM PST

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        •  lions & tigers & bears, oh my. (0+ / 0-)

          From which it can be surmised that you're working at a high level, and about which I won't speculate further, though anyone who knows general method & organizational culture could probably guess pretty accurately.

          Yes I fully understand that feeling.  "No no no don't say that!.... whew!"   But with Obama I have the feeling that he knows exactly where the edge is at all times, and he's not going to cross over it unless there is a clear and unmistakable need to do so.  Contrast to the Bush years, when time after time, he or one of his people would say something, and you could just hear the groans through the walls of TEMPEST-shielded offices.  Thank goodness all of that is o-v-e-r.  

          Anyway, congratulations to you and all of yours, for being able to spend the next four years working with an administration that respects your work, listens to what you have to say, and can be counted on to take it seriously and use it for the good.  Speaking of morale, that makes all the difference.  

          Here's to four more years of "no surprises"!

          BTW, can I get in touch via DK messaging in the unlikely event I ever run across something that might be of interest?  I have some OSI experience, decent intuition plus some training, and I've done a few things over the years that have turned out to be useful.  I won't bug you with nonsense, and I won't expect any reply beyond "got your message."  

          Now we've got our future back.

          by G2geek on Fri Nov 09, 2012 at 09:58:48 PM PST

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