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  •  I'd like to see the 2014 elections result in a (4+ / 0-)
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    Democratic majority in the House!  

    Also, there's a rumor here in Oklahoma that Inhofe will retire from the Senate when his seat is up in 2014. Potential replacement being talked up: Dan Boren from the House. I'm not a big fan of his, but at least he's a Dem (sort of, a proud blue dog) and we could hardly do worse than Inhofe.

    In addition, we should have a special list of those targeted for removal from their positions. Of course, it would include McConnell and Ryan from the House, Bachmann from the Senate (although she was just re-elected), and governors Rick Scott and Scott Walker.

    I don't think we should relax for one minute between now and some time after the 2016 elections.

    Eliminate tax breaks that stimulate the offshoring of jobs.

    by RJDixon74135 on Fri Nov 09, 2012 at 06:42:38 PM PST

    •  Oh, and BTW, I think it's very important for us (2+ / 0-)
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      to change the way we think about races outside of our own districts and our own states. I've come to this conclusion slowly after several years of having two senators (Coburn and Inhofe who couldn't be blasted out of their positions with all the dynamite in China. While I couldn't vote in races outside my state and my district, I could still take an interest in electing people to the Senate whose votes could neutralize my own Senators' ignorant actions. I love lending all the support I can, especially the small $ contributions I can make.

      Eliminate tax breaks that stimulate the offshoring of jobs.

      by RJDixon74135 on Fri Nov 09, 2012 at 06:51:45 PM PST

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    •  I really don't think targeting Oklahoma (9+ / 0-)

      is our best strategy.

      Take the "Can't(or)" out of Congress. Support E. Wayne Powell in Va-07. http://www.ewaynepowell.com/

      by anastasia p on Fri Nov 09, 2012 at 06:55:51 PM PST

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    •  Could we just get a sane Republican? (2+ / 0-)
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      Also, it'd be sweet if Bachmann ran against Al Franken.

      ...better the occasional faults of a government that lives in a spirit of charity, than the consistent omissions of a government frozen in the ice of its own indifference. -FDR, 1936

      by James Allen on Fri Nov 09, 2012 at 07:20:58 PM PST

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    •  Some replies (4+ / 0-)

      Good strategy is to target the people you can defeat, not the ones you hate most. McConnell, yes, he has to be targeted because (a) the Democrats have few offensive opportunities in the Senate in 2014 and (b) as unlikely as it is in an off-year election, you have to try to metaphorically "kill the king" if you have any reasonable chance of doing so. Ryan is a mid-level target, given the nature of his district. Bachmann is an extremist, and therefore will always underperform in her district, but her district is so Republican, it reelects her every 2 years, anyway. It was worth trying to upset her this year because her opponent showed he could keep the race close, but she still edged him.

      Also, McConnell is the Republican Minority Leader in the Senate, whereas Ryan and Bachmann are in the House.

      Finally, every Democrat wants the Democrats to have a big off-year wave and regain the House in 2014, but that seems highly improbable at this point, and if I were you, I wouldn't get my hopes up too high.

      Formerly Pan on Swing State Project

      by MichaelNY on Fri Nov 09, 2012 at 07:38:55 PM PST

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      •  leave the ones we hate alone if they're safe (4+ / 0-)

        they make the rest of the party look bad.

        ...better the occasional faults of a government that lives in a spirit of charity, than the consistent omissions of a government frozen in the ice of its own indifference. -FDR, 1936

        by James Allen on Fri Nov 09, 2012 at 07:55:40 PM PST

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      •  On that note (1+ / 0-)
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        That's the mistake MI Dems made. They focused all their energy on defeating last minute party switcher Roy Schmidt (who rightfully earned their undying hatred for his scheming) and Majority Leader Jason Bolger who they resented for engineering that switch.
        They defeated the first and narrowly missed the second but analysts say that they spent most of their money and energy on these two high-profile races and those could have been used to gain more seats around the state in a Presidential year had they spread the wealth a bit more.

    •  I bet even Boren would get crushed (4+ / 0-)

      By double-digits.  Oklahoma is fools gold these days.  They're about as likely to elect a Democrat to the Senate as Alabama.  I still remember Brad Carson getting talked up in the open 2004 race against crazy Tom Coburn.  Coburn beat him 53-41.  

    •  List of Governors who need to go: (1+ / 0-)
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      NJ- Chris Christie (2013)
      SC- Nikki Haley (she's reportedly extreme even for SC)
      OH- John Kasich
      ME- Paul LePage
      PA- Tom Corbett
      MI- Rick Snyder (or anyone who teabags him)
      FL- Rick Scott
      WI- Scott Walker
      NM- Susana Martinez

      Democrats who it might be good to upgrade (though they are in no way equivalent to the above governors):

      NY- I doubt Cuomo could get primaried in New York, but it would be nice if he did. He might as well be an IDPer.

      IL- Quinn should retire. He'd be vulnerable unless the GOP runs Walsh or some other toxic candidate. Strange, considering AFAIK he's the first non-corrupt Governor Illinois has had in over a decade.

      Male, 22, -4.75/-6.92, born and raised TN-05, now WI-02. "You're damn right we're making a difference!" - Senator-Elect Tammy Baldwin (D-Madison)

      by fearlessfred14 on Sat Nov 10, 2012 at 09:18:39 AM PST

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      •  Cuomo (1+ / 0-)
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        at the very least (and it really is the least that can be said in his defense) Cuomo isn't ethically shady like the IDC, he's just a classical liberal who doesn't fit well with either party.

        (-9.38, -7.49), Blood type "O", social anarchist, KY-01, "When smashing monuments, save the pedestals. They always come in handy." — Stanisław Lem

        by Setsuna Mudo on Sat Nov 10, 2012 at 09:54:38 AM PST

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      •  Some of those folks on your list (1+ / 0-)
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        you too hopeful on seeing them defeated. The only ppl I see losing reelection are Scott, Corbett, LePage, Kasich and Snyder. In that exact order.

        Moderate Progressive, Born in Cairo, Raised in NY-11, Living in NJ-13.

        by BKGyptian89 on Sat Nov 10, 2012 at 10:02:31 AM PST

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      •  Why Christie... (1+ / 0-)
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        And not McDonnell in VA?  While Christie may be a more prominent figure (and a dick) he's less likely than McDonnell to make a transition to national politics now.  

        As for 2014, LePage and Scott are DOA.  Corbett shouldn't be hard for the right Democrat to knock off.  Kasich will be a dogfight.  Snyder will be unbeatable in a general, but if he loses the primary we should pick up the seat.  Walker has gone through a trial by fire and (minus a major scandal) will be hard to beat now.

        What's so bad about Martinez?  Especially, why is she odious, but Sandoval isn't?  

        •  McDonnell is going anyways (3+ / 0-)
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          because he's term limited, so I can't put him there. Martinez is a marginal case I'll admit, so really she probably doesn't belong. Walker and Haley would be favored for reelection but are odious enough to belong on the list in any case, as is Snyder (marginally). I agree with you on the relative ease of defeating these governors, however.

          Male, 22, -4.75/-6.92, born and raised TN-05, now WI-02. "You're damn right we're making a difference!" - Senator-Elect Tammy Baldwin (D-Madison)

          by fearlessfred14 on Sat Nov 10, 2012 at 10:29:05 AM PST

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          •  Stupendous brainfart on my part... (3+ / 0-)
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            I forgot entirely the weird quirk in Virginia that governors cannot have consecutive terms.  

            I'd also add Branstad to the list.  He's actually worse than Corbett or Snyder, but he wasn't able to achieve his goals because the Democrats held onto the State Senate.  He should be fairly easy for Braley (or even Culver) to take out.  

            •  Easy? (0+ / 0-)

              Why do you think it should be easy to defeat him?

              Formerly Pan on Swing State Project

              by MichaelNY on Sat Nov 10, 2012 at 12:47:57 PM PST

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            •  Brandstad's approvals have recovered though (1+ / 0-)
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              PPP's misc polling showed him up something like 7-9% over generic Dem and his approvals were in the +7-10 range I think.

              Also, Braley is clearly more interested in running for senate, either in 2014 if Harkin retires or 2016 if Grassley does.  Hopefully it's the latter and we can replace Harkin and hold IA-01 in a presidential year.

              NC-06/NC-04; -9.00, -8.41; progress through pragmatism

              by sawolf on Sat Nov 10, 2012 at 01:01:23 PM PST

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