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  •  I was happier in 2008, in some ways, not in others (1+ / 0-)
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    I'd say I was happier with the election results, in spite of the pretty crushing defeat that Prop 8 represented, especially for my gay friends who live in California. In 2008, the Democrats won a trifecta in DC, and I was hopeful they'd get a lot done. Now, the president has nothing close to a free hand, given the Republican control of the House. However, many fewer Americans are bigots on sexual orientation, and that definitely makes me very happy. Also, 4 years ago, the economy was nearly apocalyptic and seemed to need a magician to rescue it, and I was also afraid the president would be assassinated soon. It seems like, in between hiring and stiffing prostitutes, the Secret Service has done a great job, and the economy was not sufficiently sabotaged by the Republicans to go back into a recession.

    So it's a mixed picture. But while the political picture looks in some ways much tougher than in 2008, the need for magicians isn't as great, and the times are definitely not as bad in the US now as they were 4 years ago. If that weren't the case, Obama would have been thrown out of office, as we all know.

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    by MichaelNY on Fri Nov 09, 2012 at 07:23:35 PM PST

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    •  I'm more relieved about 2012 in some ways (7+ / 0-)

      I think I was happier in 2008. But I am just so relieved this year. We dodged an incredibly huge bullet as a country, and I finally feel like Democrats have a secure and lasting coalition.

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      by SaoMagnifico on Fri Nov 09, 2012 at 09:38:30 PM PST

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      •  Lasting? (3+ / 0-)
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        We'll see about that. Even if there had been a wave and the Democrats had flipped the House back, I would be counseling caution. I know about the demographics, but I think that in terms of this specific election, voters judged that the economy was better than when the president took office, and didn't trust Romney for good reason. Had the economy been worsening, enough of them would have voted for Rommey, anyway, to enable him to win.

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        by MichaelNY on Fri Nov 09, 2012 at 09:47:50 PM PST

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      •  In a way 2012 was better (2+ / 0-)
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        2008 was basically a foregone conclusion, the voters were going to punish the GOP for the recession, and the wars, and the mismanagement.

        2010 was infuriating: while it wasn't much more than a protest vote against the economy, in practice it was a reward for obstructionism and demagoguery. The GOP deserved to be completely wiped out for its totally unhelpful and destructive behavior once they were in the minority, and instead they won a historic landslide.

        2012 was vindication for Dems, even if it was more a result of marginal improvement in the economy than anything else. Everything the GOP did for the past 4 years to undermine the president turns out to have been for nothing. They still have the House, but their grand plan to turn back the clock in a big way is not going to come off. Ever.

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        by sacman701 on Fri Nov 09, 2012 at 11:20:52 PM PST

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