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  •  thank god. that means only 32% are truly (3+ / 0-)
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    hidebound.  That sounds about right, actually. Who knows, maybe even that number will shrink after the next off-the-charts mega system slams into the South somewhere.

    "Well, yeah, the Constitution is worth it if you succeed." - Nancy Pelosi // Question: "succeed" at what?

    by nailbender on Fri Nov 09, 2012 at 08:51:02 PM PST

    •  Yes, if we get another couple feet in the rise of (3+ / 0-)
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      sea level as the polar ice-caps melt I betcha this number drop all the way down to 28%.  That's the great thing about Americans.  Many of us pay attention to reality, eventually.

      The means is the ends in the process of becoming. - Mahatma Gandhi

      by HoundDog on Fri Nov 09, 2012 at 09:07:18 PM PST

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      •  What's the Support for Social Security (2+ / 0-)
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        which is bipartisanly on the chopping block to balance the "federal deficit?"

        We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

        by Gooserock on Fri Nov 09, 2012 at 09:10:23 PM PST

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        •  I published a poll last night which said 70% of (1+ / 0-)
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          voters oppose cuts to Social Security, Medicare, or Education to balance the budget or solve this fiscal cliff thing, which is the Republican position.

          The overwhelming majority of Americans now prefer our Democratic approach which is to raise revenue by returning tax rates on the wealthiest, and closing loop holes.

          It's probably about 6-10 down in my archives.

          But, a bunch of us are getting fired up to warn certain Democrats who want to use Simpson-Bowles as a model for a 'grand compromise" that it will be the blunder of a lifetime and destroy the miraculous rebuilding of our Democratic coalition that we just rebuilt.

           

          The means is the ends in the process of becoming. - Mahatma Gandhi

          by HoundDog on Fri Nov 09, 2012 at 09:19:43 PM PST

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      •  HoundDog - congrats on the participation (3+ / 0-)
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        I rarely write diaries but have 22,000 comments and 75,000 recs when they stopped counting. Someone said they are keeping track but I don't understand why the counter stopped when DK4 started. I would be over 100,000 now, which would be cool.

        Regarding climate change I do think recognition of the problem is the first hurdle and it's encouraging to see awareness increase. However, I think that is the easy part. The harder part is that Americans feel they are entitled to inexpensive energy. I think this goes back nearly 100 years when in the early days of oil the US was the Saudi Arabia of that era and was the top oil exporter in the world. As we see now all of the top oil exporting countries  provide very inexpensive oil and gasoline to their citizens. While it has been a long time since we were significant oil exporters people think gas should be $2/gallon, not $5/gallon. So I fear that if you asked people to chose between less expensive or green energy, the overwhelming percentage of Americans would chose cheaper. And that is the challenge for politicians.

        "let's talk about that"

        by VClib on Fri Nov 09, 2012 at 09:48:11 PM PST

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        •  I agree with everything you say. (2+ / 0-)
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          How easy should it be to count rec received, and given.  I don't understand the problem.

          Yes, it may seem sort of trivial but I think it is human nature to like to see acknowledgement and track progress.

          Cutting back on burning fossil fuels is going to be really difficult.

          But, fortunately the cost of solar energy has been coming down so fast we are seeing a lot more creative application, although it is devastating the business plans of many producers, as happened with Solyndra.

          The means is the ends in the process of becoming. - Mahatma Gandhi

          by HoundDog on Fri Nov 09, 2012 at 09:54:29 PM PST

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          •  HD - the big breakthrough will be (2+ / 0-)
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            inexpensive power storage. If we had a technology that would allow us to very inexpensively store solar and wind generated power, even for 24 hours, it would be huge. There are some very interesting technologies in development, and I have seen a handful that may be what we need.

            Lower natural gas prices also allow for the substitution of cleaner natural gas for coal.

            The Energy Department's venture investments are a subject for another conversation.

            "let's talk about that"

            by VClib on Fri Nov 09, 2012 at 10:01:47 PM PST

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            •  Yes, thanks for reminding me. About a year ago I (1+ / 0-)
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              reported a big breakthrough in batter storage from MIT.  There was some liquid chemical that could store energy for long periods, that had been demonstrated in small quantities.

              Authors speculated that it was so stable we might even get  eventually get collectors in southern deserts transported up to northern areas, or summer - winter storage.

              Problem was it required certain extremely rare and expensive rare earths based alloys that were wickedly expensive to produce.

              But, the hope was that once the basic thermodynamics of the very odd chemical bonds were better understood that could find out how to exploit the same mechanism in less costly and rare chemicals.  

              I'll have to go back and see how that is going.

              Another sort of out-of-the-blue discovery this year was with a piezo-electric nanabot combo, which produced electric currents from much smaller scale motions across a thin film surface, potentially opening up the possibility of extracting energy from small wive, or sream currents, and potentially even wind,. although this technology was 5 to 20 years away from being able to be scaled up to the magnitude of applications we would need to put a dent in the massive amounts of coal and oil electrical generation.

              The means is the ends in the process of becoming. - Mahatma Gandhi

              by HoundDog on Fri Nov 09, 2012 at 10:20:11 PM PST

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