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  •  Richard Engel intimated last night on TRMS... (3+ / 0-)
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    ..that Petraeus was NOT well liked within the CIA.  

    He said that the fact that the FBI was investigating the case suggested that someone from WITHIN the CIA turned him in.  Normally the FBI does not investigate the goings on of the CIA and certainly does not investigate extramarital affairs.

    •  That was also suggested in a POLITICO article (1+ / 0-)
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      The implication seems to be that there were multiple reasons for Petraeus' departure, and that an affair is not necessarily a reason to dismiss people within the agency.  I'll give you a link to a NJ.Com repost of the "No Pass for Petraeus" article, rather than run up POLITICO's web hits:  http://www.nj.com/...

      Most likely, as many have suggested, the Agency's handling of the Benghazi attack must factor highly among the contributing or precipitating reasons.  At the root of that, I believe, is the CIA's bodged regime change operations that have led to confirmed reports of the export from Libya to Syria (and elsewhere) of some of the 15,000 or so MANPADs looted after the overthrow of Gadhaffi, an operation run out of the Benghazi compound that is now publicly known to be State Dept. cover for the CIA's station in Eastern Libya.

      As much as that is a potential disaster, the fact that the regime change operations in Syria have not followed the initial Libyan model, and has instead sparked a spreading civil war between Sunnis and Shi'ia in the region, is a looming foreign policy disaster for the Obama Administration.  

      It's not immediately apparent how much of that operation has Petraeus' personal imprint on it, but I would not be surprised if he was a commanding figure in covert multilateral paramilitary operations that have contributed to the spreading violence across MENA.  The outcome of that policy of militarized regime change is unclear, but the danger of a uncontrolled regional conflageration is now clear.  

      •  Yes, the extramarital affair is being used as (1+ / 0-)
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        the cover story to deflect attention away from the important story.

      •  My partner thinks this story reflects a real (0+ / 0-)

        break down in "military discipline" similar to what we saw when McChrystal had to resign.  

        It seems that Patraeus was a real opportunist that has been misusing his power/privilege/access in a variety of ways we may never know.

        •  Sadly, I have to disagree. Petreaus and (1+ / 0-)
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          others in the the present Administration pretty much see eye-to-eye in terms of strategy.   In fact, the General may have been an author of much of the tactics.   Now that things have gone south, he may be falling on his sword.

          When Obama came in, one of the earliest initiatives was to try to pry Assad away from Iran.  That didn't work out, as planned.  So, simultaneously, Benghazi, Libya and Daraa, Syria exploded in exactly the same way within a few days of each other in February last year.  The rest is history.

          I found this from ABC from 2008: http://abcnews.go.com/...

          Exclusive: Petraeus Wants to Go to Syria; Bush Administration Says No

          By JONATHAN KARL (@jonkarl)
          Oct. 30, 2008

           Apparently Gen. David Petraeus does not agree with the Bush administration that the road to Damascus is a dead end.

          ABC News has learned, Petraeus proposed visiting Syria shortly after taking over as the top U.S. commander for the Middle East.

          The idea was swiftly rejected by Bush administration officials at the White House, State Department and the Pentagon.

          Petraeus, who becomes the commander of U.S. Central Command (Centcom) Friday, had hoped to meet in Damascus with Syrian President Bashar al-Assad. Petraeus proposed the trip, and senior officials objected, before the covert U.S. strike earlier this week on a target inside Syria's border with Iraq.

          Officials familiar with Petraeus' thinking on the subject say he wants to engage Syria in part because he believes that U.S. diplomacy can be used to drive a wedge between Syria and Iran. He plans to continue pushing the idea.

          "When the timing is right, we ought to go in there and have a good discussion with the Syrians," said a Defense Department official close to Petraeus. "It's a meaningful dialogue to have."

          Petraeus would likely find a more receptive audience for his approach in an Obama administration, given Barack Obama's views on the need to engage America's enemies.

        •  WTF??? (1+ / 0-)
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          First off, he retired form the military over a year ago so its not a "military discipline" matter.  

          Second he is not the first person to ever end up having an affair with someone who they spend significant time around.  Men+Women+time+intimacy=Sex

          Nothing new about this.

          It is well that war is so terrible -- lest we should grow too fond of it. Robert E. Lee

          by ksuwildkat on Sat Nov 10, 2012 at 11:46:58 AM PST

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          •  Of course, he is a retired general, but the book (0+ / 0-)

            was written while he was serving.

            Not my area of expertise.

            Agreed that people are human

            Men+Women+time+intimacy=Sex
            I think they are using the affair as a cover to deflect from the main story.
    •  I've read they weren't investigating an affair (0+ / 0-)

      but that her name came up when they were investigating something else (attempted unauthorized access to one of his computers).

    •  BULLSHIT!!! (0+ / 0-)

      100% of domestic counter intelligence investigations for civilians are conducted by the FBI.

      http://www.fbi.gov/...

      From the reports in the media this was discovered as part of an ongoing counter intelligence investigation and reported appropriately.

      As for his "popularity" in the Agency, there has never been a Director that some did not like.  The competing nature of the Analytic and Operations divisions means that someone is always going to feel they are not the priority they think they should be.  Some Directors favor operations and direct action, some favor analysis.  No Director can make everyone happy nor should he try.

      It is well that war is so terrible -- lest we should grow too fond of it. Robert E. Lee

      by ksuwildkat on Sat Nov 10, 2012 at 11:00:41 AM PST

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