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  •  wait until the votes are counted (5+ / 0-)
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    before asserting this is low turnout. From election day to final, there are another 10 million votes to count.

    "Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies." - Groucho Marx

    by Greg Dworkin on Sun Nov 11, 2012 at 09:02:36 AM PST

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    •  How do you calculate turnout in the USA? (1+ / 0-)
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      In Britain (for example) it is straightforwards. With no on-the-day registration there is a printed electoral roll with a definite number of people registered. The first job of the counting staff after the polls close is to verify the number of ballots received (they do NOT count the numbers per candidate at this stage). When they have verified that the number of ballots issued in poll places equals the number placed in the ballot boxes and added on the postal votes received back they issue a figure for 'turnout' for that particular contest, an exact number also expressed in percentage of registered voters terms to two decimal places. Turnout therefore is not just the crude number voting but the proportion of registered voters who voted.

      Only when the turnout is known for a particular contest are the votes separated into counts for each candidate in that contest. The turnout figure is the honesty check figure. The candidates totals plus spoilt and disputed ballot papers must add up to the turnout figure precisely, to the vote, no fudging allowed. This minimises the chances of ballot stuffing

      How do you do it in the USA?

      Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent.

      by saugatojas on Sun Nov 11, 2012 at 01:00:43 PM PST

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      •  here (0+ / 0-)

        "Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies." - Groucho Marx

        by Greg Dworkin on Sun Nov 11, 2012 at 01:25:51 PM PST

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        •  No wonder your turnout figures are so low (0+ / 0-)

          The figures are for percentage 'voting age population'.

          Other countries turnout figures (routinely higher than the turnout figures for the USA are for percentage of registered voters.

          How is voting age population refined to eligible citizens of voting age? And then to the numbers registered for that election?

          Concerned citizens in the USE regularly moan about low USA election turnouts. Could it be you are giving yourselves too hard a time in this respect  and the real problem is failure to register eligible voters?

          Does anyone produce 'turnout' figures that would be statistically comparable (say) to UK turnout figures?That is percent of registered voters who vote in a given election, not percent of voting-age population.

          Those 50% turnout figures might actually more impressive in proper comparative terms.

          Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent.

          by saugatojas on Sun Nov 11, 2012 at 02:05:18 PM PST

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