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  •  I really like Bernie Sandars' (6+ / 0-)

    idea of a 50 Presidential "barnstorming" campaign.  But I think it could be expanded and improved by bringing in other established and rising Democratic figures.  Bring gifted Democrats into the heart of the red states and thrash the
    House Republicans on bread, butter and taxes.  This would also be a great way to familiarize Dems in one region of the country with the Dem issues, candidates, and office-holders of other regions, which would really help dems and progressives see the "big picture" of how "their" issues and candidates fit into the national (and larger) scene.

    As for the midterms, I think OFA needs to figure out a way to keep it together and we just simply HAVE to GET OUR PEOPLE TO THE POLLS AGAIN.  This will be easier to do if the messaging on economics has been clear, consistent, and targeted on those who are least likely to vote in the midterms.  This will be especially important if the Republicans go for pure obstructionism (as they seem to be doing).

    •  for 2014 (0+ / 0-)

      I'm coming around to the idea that messaging on economics is not the emotive force that would get  people to the polls.  I'm wondering if we need to make 2014 about Obama - almost as if he were up for election again to get more Dems to the polls.  ( have a comment below on this also.)

      I'm not liberal. I'm actually just anti-evil, OK? - Elon James White

      by Satya1 on Sat Nov 10, 2012 at 04:01:14 PM PST

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      •  Making this about the President as a person (0+ / 0-)

        would be a serious mistake.

        First and foremost, it simply amplifies the Republican schtick about the "rock-star / celebrity" president who has no policy substance.  It also plays to the "great leader" Republican line of attack that paints progressives as slavish followers of a charismatic tyrant a la Mao or Fidel or Chavez.

        In contrast, the President has made it clear, over and over, that what we have achieved over the last few years is NOT about him.  It is about the economic message of tax fairness and middle class security.  As the Rev. put it, "...this election is not about Obama; it's about your mama."

        For the first time in a generation, liberals and progressives hold the advantage in popular opinion on taxation policy and the role of government in American life.  Conservatives understand this, viz. their collective post-election meltdown, whining about there being more "takers" than "makers," etc., etc.  The blacks, Hispanics, young people and women who elected the president also clearly understood that this election was about social and economic issues, not Obama per se.  To throw away this advantage for a hokey "great man" narrative would be a strategic blunder of the highest order.

        •  You misunderstand me (0+ / 0-)

          I'm talking about  Obama the leader pushing through Dem policies as part of the Dem party.

          In the comment I referenced for you, I put it this way:

          "Thanks for voting for Obama.  Now help him complete his work by giving him the Congress that can stop the roadblocks and move  his policies forward."
          Also note the long comment I highlight from Ezra Klein.  I have plastered that all over Daily Kos in recent months.  So I'm not a believer in the "great man" BS, but one thing is certain - a huge number of Americans ARE caught in that simplistic thinking.  It's hokey.  It's not reality.  But it is what millions of Americans have come to believe after decades of being spoon fed simplistic crap from a lazy and corrupt corporate media.  We ignore that and we're really courting disaster.

          THAT is what we've  got to deal with.  And we have to understand that mindset if we're going to get a message through to voters.  Note the loss of the Nevada Senate seat because 88,000 couldn't connect the idea that while they're there to vote Obama in as Prez, they should also be voting on a Senate candidate to work with him instead of block him.  That ignorance of government function and hyperfocus on one individual, the Prez, isn't pretty but ignoring the mindset out there isn't going to help any "messaging".  

          Obama remains the most effective medium for delivering the message.  And when he delivers the message he can educate.  He can recite specific examples of obstruction that highlight the need for a Dem Congress.  Like it or not, people focus on Obama the leader.  It is the simple truth they grasp because many don't get how government actually works.  

          I think you're misunderstanding how this could work.  You dismiss the great man theory as we all do here at DK [well most I hope ;) ]  But  getting the message across is not about what you or I believe but about what the voters believe.  It's not about  what we say but about what they hear.  

          I think the discussion should continue.  I don't see a lot of ideas being discussed about how to get Dem voters to polls in 2014.  I see a lot of concern about a repeat of 2010.  Frankly, I'm pessimistic.  I don't thinks Dems have dealt with this effectively in the past and I see no reason for future changes unless OFA and/or Obama participate in some ways.  I'm not suggesting that Obama needs to be campaigning for 6 months in 50 states.  I'm suggesting his presence in the 2014 election will be valuable and we need to employ it effectively.

          I'm not liberal. I'm actually just anti-evil, OK? - Elon James White

          by Satya1 on Sun Nov 11, 2012 at 10:00:14 AM PST

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