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  •  Sandy (3+ / 0-)
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    Grimm is probably safe unless he has to resign due to indictment or conviction. NY-13 is very Republican, and the only reason for the decrease in Republican voting in that district, I'm guessing, is that the very Republican South Shore of Staten Island was really brutally slammed by the storm, while the Democratic North Shore was much less badly hit.

    Peter King should be targeted, but his opponent has to be an absolute A-lister, and I would still consider the effort quite a stretch. If he retired, though, that would be a different issue.

    As you mention, Turner's district was eliminated through redistricting, so there's no target there.

    A storm is not a partisan issue. President Obama's visibility and the degree to which Federal agencies like FEMA have helped did earn some more votes for the President in New Jersey, for example, and our Independent mayor, Bloomberg, has screwed up badly in several ways, but he isn't up for reelection.

    I find the suggestion that the aftermath of this storm will lead to a surge in progressive politics a little odd. Also, a friend of mine who has been spending most of his time doing relief work said that Occupy Sandy is very disorganized as a result of Occupy's insistence on not having a real leadership, for what it's worth (he mentioned that a hospital in the Rockaways had spoken with several different "leaders" of Occupy and told them what they needed, each one said they'd get those things, and nothing happened). I know they've done some good, but there are other non-partisan organizations that my friends tell me have been more effective.

    Formerly Pan on Swing State Project

    by MichaelNY on Sat Nov 10, 2012 at 05:34:16 PM PST

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    •  You're right a storm is not partisan (1+ / 0-)
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      and I'm not suggesting it is.

      I'm not predicting a rise in progressive politics, per se.

      And yes, I'm sure that there is a lot of messiness in Occupy Sandy's operation. To get something off the ground starting the day after the storm, I'd give them a lot of credit. They are learning as they go.

      And I'm sure your friend is right that there are local established organizations that would have known what to do right away.  The problem is that Mayor Bloomberg was turning volunteers away and community organizations away, telling people to donate money instead.

      Even FEMA could have been here sooner; they were mobilized and ready to come in, but the Mayor told them that the city had it covered.

      I just think it will be a loss (for everyone) if people affected by the storm, and people volunteering in recovery, take away the lesson that government should be drowned in the bath-tub because other organizations stepped up when the city was slow to get it going.

    •  The other practical matter is that refugees (2+ / 0-)
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      moved away from New Orleans and did not return.

      LA is more red now.

      Let's not let the house pick up some seats in New York, because people move away, and those who stay become more committed republicans.

    •  I don't think Peter King's opponent (0+ / 0-)

      has to be some sort of A-Lister. I think having a decent candidate with enough resources to fight is key.

      "The election of Mitt Romney and a supporting congress this November would be a...disaster for America. Think of the trainwreck that has been the Conservative government in Britain since 2010. And square it."--Brad DeLong

      by bjssp on Mon Nov 12, 2012 at 07:26:47 AM PST

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      •  I disagree (1+ / 0-)
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        King is a very strong incumbent in a Republican-leaning district. It would be extremely hard to defeat him, and there might not be anyone who can, in fact.

        Formerly Pan on Swing State Project

        by MichaelNY on Mon Nov 12, 2012 at 05:40:40 PM PST

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