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  •  "Government should be run like a business" (32+ / 0-)

    is almost the stupidest goddamned thing I have ever heard.  Every time I hear someone say that, I immediately know they are either a RWNJ or someone too stupid to apply a moment's worth of critical thinking to republican talking points.  

    •  I would ammend this to add (16+ / 0-)

      that civic institutions (schools, prisons etc.) should not be run like businesses either.  Sadly those of us in education are seeing that sad results of what happens in this scenario.

      “It is the job of the artist to think outside the boundaries of permissible thought and dare say things that no one else will say."—Howard Zinn

      by musiclady on Sun Nov 11, 2012 at 07:52:44 AM PST

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      •  Don't forget science. (6+ / 0-)

        Many of the country's scientists are supported through NSF, DoE, DoD, NIH, etc...

        Business will not necessarily invest in say... developing magnetic semiconductors for spintronics. This is an exercise left to my fellow colleague and many others with support of the NSF (coming from fellow taxpayers).

        Right now there is one component we can easily utilize to store/process information corresponding to a part of the electron: CHARGE!

        Possible in today's techs. You're using that technology NOW.

        We would also like to utilize another part of the electron called SPIN!

        Possible NOW with special layering of metal/semiconductor materials.... or doping GaAs with magnetic element Mn - that is okay i guess.  Most of those developments come out of grad student toil and of course, tax payer monies.

        It's a time consuming process. Time is money so private enterprise would not invest in this kinda stuff.

        Why hello there reality, how are you doing?

        by Future Gazer on Sun Nov 11, 2012 at 09:09:27 AM PST

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        •  National Academy of Sciences Climate Change Video (2+ / 0-)
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          Their main website is nas.edu, lots of good science information for decision makers, teachers and the public.

          Here's their video about the science of climate change:

          http://www.youtube.com/...

        •  Science is not a business (3+ / 0-)
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          In the process of getting out of a broken post-doc, the principle investigator lectured me on how science is a business now. Her lab was a mess of compartmentalization. She was so intent on maintaining total control that she refused outright when I suggested starting a weekly lab meeting to catch up on overall progress of research projects. I have, until that point, have never even heard of a lab that did not conduct lab meetings or any other of communication among members. She literally jumped down my throat when I put forward a suggestion for a grad student's project which strayed marginally from my own assigned project. Even though part of my post doc involved organizing the lab and teaching grad students, there were projects that I had no idea were even underway. Not surprisingly, her lab isn't doing so well now, a year later.

          Registered Buddhacrat

          by clear SKies on Sun Nov 11, 2012 at 12:57:19 PM PST

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          •  tl dr version (0+ / 0-)

            Science takes time. There's no way that business will wait as long as science needs and that's why government picks up the tab when it comes to funding science.

            I can't defend the way PIs run their labs, but a good one will ultimately accept that there are failures and unexpected results. They will help you pick yourself up and try something else.

            Why hello there reality, how are you doing?

            by Future Gazer on Sun Nov 11, 2012 at 05:47:15 PM PST

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      •  I think the monied interests (1+ / 0-)
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        have intentionally spent billions trying to confuse the difference between civilization and socialism (and w/our President I think that's often used as a euphemism for prejudice).

        The shrub masters had their conclusions before they needed any facts.  Any facts tossed were cherry picked or meaningless. Remember, reality was what they said it was and any fact they didn't like was viciously attacked while blatant lies were exalted. In fact, like glendenb said, the shrub admin was run exactly like a corporation.

        Rmoney is a person w/o any skills other than salesman, who through privilege got a Harvard MBA and through $, coercion (bullying), and lack of conscience succeeded as a sociopath in a sociopaths ballpark but lost in the reality of a national presidential campaign.

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