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  •  Furthermore, (5+ / 0-)

    the author is 29 years old. Not much perspective there.

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    by emidesu on Sun Nov 11, 2012 at 03:22:27 PM PST

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    •  I wouldn't quite go that far. I'm younger -- 21. (8+ / 0-)

      Though I do understand the "not understanding how liberals felt in 80/84/88/94/00/04 elections" point of view, though.

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      by weatherdude on Sun Nov 11, 2012 at 04:30:38 PM PST

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      •  Some thoughts on the ugly word" Schadenfreude" (0+ / 0-)

        Everything in your article is spot on in my opinion.

        But schadenfreude really is an ugly, ugly sentiment. It's not constructive.

        Working to make sure these people lose their clout, lose some of their control of the courts and the media, that's constructive.

        I've felt schadenfreude. It's base. Something to be overcome not wallowed in.

        Reaganomics noun pl: belief that unregulated capitalism can produce unlimited goods for unlimited people on a planet with finite resources and we the people can increase revenue by decreasing revenue.

        by FrY10cK on Mon Nov 12, 2012 at 04:29:07 AM PST

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        •  Part of the connotation: (1+ / 0-)
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          Schadenfreude isn't supposed to be mere gloating over winning (and losing). It's supposed to be watching at a bit of a distance as the "enemy" runs up against some well-deserved albeit random suffering. Or when they collapse on their own, as a result of their own character flaws.

          But as I understand the connotation of the word, it only really applies when you're not the one causing the suffering.

          Since this particular electoral defeat came at the hands of American liberals, I don't think it quite has the ring of schadenfreude to American liberals. It's more like a mixture of relief and triumph.

          •  Connotations are not lost on me. I had no idea. (0+ / 0-)

            Are you fluent in German?

            Reaganomics noun pl: belief that unregulated capitalism can produce unlimited goods for unlimited people on a planet with finite resources and we the people can increase revenue by decreasing revenue.

            by FrY10cK on Mon Nov 12, 2012 at 09:59:38 AM PST

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            •  No, not at all. (0+ / 0-)

              That's just the way I'd always seen the word used by English speakers until just now. Maybe I have it wrong, but I'd always heard it in the sense of "my asshole ex-boyfriend had a skiing accident, ha ha." Not like "I beat up my asshole ex-boyfriend." That would be different.

      •  I would not say that about you. (0+ / 0-)

        You are much wiser than this young woman. I have met a number of people in their early 20's recently who also have a really good grip and sense of historical perspective. But there is none displayed in her article.

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        by emidesu on Mon Nov 12, 2012 at 03:50:11 PM PST

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