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  •  I'm sick and tired (0+ / 0-)

    of this meme:

    Let us not continue this delusion of having empathy for them, they do not have empathy for me, for you or for us.
    of which I've read countless variations here these last few days.

    It's not only a completely illogical bit of argument, but it also runs contrary to President Obama's call for unity: “We are not a collection of red states or blue states. We are the United States of America!"

    The President has always uplifted the idea that diverse collaborations are stronger than homogeneous ones. "E Pluribus Unum" and all that, at the level of individuals as well as states. Let's try to follow his lead a little better.

    •  Personally I don't give a damn (2+ / 0-)
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      about Obama's call for unity. I vote for him because he is a democrat and immensely preferable to the opposition. We don't need to swallow everything he says hook line and sinker.

      He's the guy at the top of the ticket, that is all. It's much more important to realize that as long as one side thinks it's at ware with us, we really are at war with them. And we will be at a severe disadvantage if we don't act accordingly. To that end, we need to stomp them into the dust before they have a chance to regroup, for they surely would do so to us.

      "crush in its birth the aristocracy of our monied corporations which dare already to challenge our government" -Thomas Jefferson

      by Phil In Denver on Mon Nov 12, 2012 at 11:00:59 AM PST

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      •  You'd prefer to (0+ / 0-)

        reignite the Civil War?

        •  It's a rhetorical "war" (0+ / 0-)

          I don't expect to be loading my shotgun any time soon. But I do think it means we don't back off, we don't back down, we don't cede any ground, and we don't take anything for granted. We especially don't offer any compromise beyond what we have already offered.

          Here is the thing. Our opposition is desperate, and currently in despair. But they won't be in despair for long, they will soon be seething with rage and will pull out all the stops in the off-year election of 2014. It will make 2010 look like a cakewalk.

          "crush in its birth the aristocracy of our monied corporations which dare already to challenge our government" -Thomas Jefferson

          by Phil In Denver on Mon Nov 12, 2012 at 01:33:47 PM PST

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    •  Which is exactly why we can't have nice things (0+ / 0-)

      Democrats have no spine once elected.  You're not dumb enough to think tea party assholes want to compromise or will budge an inch.  So what do you think happens when Democrats are willing to do so?  Well, this is what happens, Democrats just become Republican-lite, as they move to the right while the right does not move toward the left.

      I am willing to compromise with people who will reciprocate.  But once I realize there is no reciprocation coming from the other end, it's time to stop being gullible.

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