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  •  No 47% is a composite of (28+ / 0-)

    a) people being told that a vote for Obama was against their church and that the voter and country would go to hell for doing so.
    b) Rich, or rich-aspirants who think there's a buck to be made in breaking open the medicare/ social security piggy bank
    c) Racists who prefer the cold, cruel Romney over a black man despite voting against their interests.

    Of course (a) is just a bunch of racist "priests" preaching intolerance to their flock guised as concern about the nation's welfare.

    Make sure everyone's vote counts: Verified Voting

    by sacrelicious on Mon Nov 12, 2012 at 01:32:54 AM PST

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    •  Well, (13+ / 0-)

      that is how the elites have ripped off the masses for a very long time, by turning the little people against each other. The diarist is right though. I have thought that this was the Civil War part 3 for awhile, part 2 commenced when LBJ passed the civil rights act.

      As Faulkner said, "The past isn't dead, it isn't even past". The good news is that the folks who grew up in a nation dominated by whites are dying off and the younger generation does not think that way. In fact, if you are young being white isn't cool!

    •  Yep. (13+ / 0-)

      The churches don't even try to hide the politicking anymore. I saw a church billboard on the way to work last week that said "Vote Biblical Values".  Then JVM ministries was preaching the end times if Obama was elected and of course the dirty muslims were going to kill everyone and ZOMG the poor Jews were gonna get it first. Tax exempt status needs to go bye bye.

      ~War is Peace~Freedom is Slavery~Ignorance is Strength~ George Orwell "1984"

      by Kristina40 on Mon Nov 12, 2012 at 05:34:04 AM PST

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      •  I thought the end times means (1+ / 0-)
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        they're going to Heaven soon and get to laugh their fannies off about the rest of us roasting in Hell, therefore it's supposed to be a happy time.

        Maybe they either don't really believe that bullshit or do but are afraid they won't get into Heaven.

        liberal bias = failure to validate or sufficiently flatter the conservative narrative on any given subject

        by RockyMtnLib on Mon Nov 12, 2012 at 04:58:11 PM PST

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    •  This ^^^ (5+ / 0-)

      x 100.

      We have to stop lumping the red vote into one gigantic monolith.  The end of white privilege America is certainly a motivating factor in a great deal of the red vote, but even that is activated and meaningful to folks in different ways and along different vectors.  

      Words can sometimes, in moments of grace, attain the quality of deeds. --Elie Wiesel

      by a gilas girl on Mon Nov 12, 2012 at 06:07:36 AM PST

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    •  Don't forget (1+ / 0-)
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      The low-information voters that didn't pay any attention at all to the election, and pulled the lever for Romney because they've always voted Republican, their parents voted Republican, their grandparents...

      No thinking involved, just pure "rooting for my team" reflex voting.

    •  In general this is true, but (0+ / 0-)

      Many of the 'priests' actually believe the bullshit as well. My dad is one of them. You have to go much further up the line, generally, to the national heads of organisations, before you get to the people who are really pulling the strings, and doing it only for pollitical gain - but even with those people (Dobson for example) for a good half of them, at least, it is both.

      They want theocracy without actually calling it that, and it's more of a holy war than they want to admit. There is a great deal of extremist true belief in the Christian Right, even at the highest levels, and it is freaking scary. All the way to the top, they really believe they are doing God's will by trying to force their beliefs on America. For the most part, the entire subset is having their strings pulled (via kneejerk dogwhistle language they are taking advantage of, or have gradually introduced) by the Randian objectivists and rich finance/business/banking interests that form most of the secular half of the Right Wing, who suckered them in with promises of 'family values' being upheld along with the smaller government both of them want.

      Don't make the mistake of thinking any of that is mutually exclusive. It's definitely not. People have an amazing capacity to believe and even to strive for many contradictory things at once.

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