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  •  When you're a multimegabillionaire (1+ / 0-)
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    you really have very few worries - heck, the Koch Brothers are going to make out like Bandits no matter which of the current parties are in power.

    In a way it's rather inexplicably why the Billionaires are so peeved at Obama - he's done nothing to diminish their power and influence.

    •  Actually, Obama has done a lot to give the oil (1+ / 0-)
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      billionaires headaches, with the top of the list being the shattering of the unholy alliance between the U.S. automobile industry and Big Oil.

      Big Oil hates the Obama Administration's CAFE Standards and absolutely hates the big push for electric vehicles.

      "A candle loses nothing by lighting another candle" - Mohammed Nabbous, R.I.P.

      by Lawrence on Mon Nov 12, 2012 at 05:09:28 AM PST

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      •  Well, he could/should do A LOT more (0+ / 0-)

        In reality he is overseeing a vast and environmentally destructive renassaince in US oil (and gas) production:

        The U.S. will overtake Saudi Arabia and Russia to become the world’s largest global oil producer by 2017, according to the International Energy Agency, in one of the clearest signs yet of how the shale revolution is redrawing the global energy landscape.

        This marks the first time the IEA, the developed world’s most respected energy forecaster, has made such a prediction. It underscores how the drilling boom that has unlocked North America’s vast reserves of hard-to-get-at oil and gas is changing the world’s oil balance.


        Making your crocodile tears for the oil billionaires ring very, very hollow!!

        •  As long as the amount of oil that we use (0+ / 0-)

          continues to decline and the carbon intensity of our economy continues to decline, I don't have a problem with U.S. oil displacing foreign oil.  Foreign oil has been one of the biggest reasons for our massive trade deficit.

          "A candle loses nothing by lighting another candle" - Mohammed Nabbous, R.I.P.

          by Lawrence on Mon Nov 12, 2012 at 05:23:11 AM PST

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          •  Really? No matter what the environmental (0+ / 0-)

            cost - which is a total twofer in this case, both negative (first the carbon dioxide emissions, and second the "local" effects of the massive fracking . . . .).

            Seriously if anybody out there want to spend their money effectively to combat this, DON'T donate to the status quo political parties who are both part and parcel of the problem - send your $50 or $100 to someplace effective like GreenCorps (who helped put forward wind and/or solar initiative in Colorado, for example, despite being outspent 100 to 1 by Big Fossil Fuel . . .).

          •  Pumping carbon into the atmosphere we (0+ / 0-)

            breathe is a bad idea.
            "Foreign oil," on the other hand is one of those fictional antagonists punitive people are always jiggering up to demonstrate how tough they are and to impress on their homies how lucky they are not to be targets.
            "Aren't you glad I'm not your enemy?" is a really effective and inexpensive tactic to induce submission by the gullible. Exacting obedience by punishing someone else works especially well with empathetic people. They don't like to see other people suffer. "Foreign oil," has proved even more effective because oil doesn't suffer, so it can be disdained with equanimity. "America" serves a similar purpose. "Believe in America" was a value-free slogan -- no content and no commitment to action.
            Contrast that with "Organizing for America."

            We organize governments to provide benefits and prevent abuse.

            by hannah on Mon Nov 12, 2012 at 05:55:04 AM PST

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    •  It's Not About Their Current Situation, They're (2+ / 0-)
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      playing a longer game and no Democrat will advance them as much as Republicans will.

      We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

      by Gooserock on Mon Nov 12, 2012 at 06:01:21 AM PST

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      •  I guess that's a reasonable point (0+ / 0-)

        for example, it echoes when C. Montgomery Burns told Lisa Simpson "Although I'm a very wealthy man, I'd give it all up"

        which sounds quite intriguing, until he finished the thought:

        "for just a little bit more"

    •  They don't see it that way! (0+ / 0-)

      Koch brothers have the greed disease so bad they would pick up the game pieces at a penny pitching event if they had to back their limo over the participants first.

      Facts are they are so rich they can no longer change their wealth enough to be able to afford anything they can't already afford. They are the only ones who don't realize this. Perhaps they think they can pay poor people to die for them. If they could they would die while trying to arrange a lower price.

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