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  •  Democrats do their best when they are pessimistic (3+ / 0-)
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    Democrats do their best when they are pessimistic.  It causes them to over-prepare, over-achieve, and overkill the opposition.  

    I am not writing this to put Democrats down.  I am writing this because I believe liberals and Democrats should put themselves in the mindset of being fearful.   So long as Democrats do not fall from fear to actual despair, fear should help Democrats win.

    Example: After President Obama did so poorly in the Denver debate, he won the next two debates.

    Example: When it was clear that Ohio and Florida Republicans were trying to suppress minority voters, Ohio and Florida Democrats went out of the way to motivate people to vote Democrat.

    •  not necessarily. (3+ / 0-)
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      Fear can produce paralysis.

      The appropriate emotions for motivation vary from one person to the next.

      IMHO nothing encourages victory like the feeling of victory, but that's just me.

      We got the future back.

      by G2geek on Mon Nov 12, 2012 at 09:42:20 AM PST

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      •  When have the Dems been paralyzed? (0+ / 0-)

        They don't seem to go into catatonia when they're afraid.  They organize.

        •  depends on the person. (2+ / 0-)
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          You see the ones who organize.  But what you don't see are the ones who've gone catatonic.   Per diarist, it's what you don't see that's potentially most interesting.

          Meanwhile, per diarist, we have 5 million missing votes to figure out: what made those people stay home?  I have to wonder, how many of those were rendered catatonic as compared to dissatisfied in some particular way?   The important part is the emotional narrative: what were they feeling that made them stay home?  

          We got the future back.

          by G2geek on Mon Nov 12, 2012 at 11:04:57 AM PST

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        •  2010 (0+ / 0-)

          But maybe the problem there is that not enough people were afraid.

          All things in the sky are pure to those who have no telescopes. – Charles Fort

          by subtropolis on Mon Nov 12, 2012 at 01:09:30 PM PST

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    •  Untrue. Expand the vote by winning and positivity (3+ / 0-)
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      You want to know why Obama won?
      He was positive, kept pushing for inclusivity and realized that the voting populace could be increased by bringing those unlikely voters out of the shadows.

      We win when we vote.  Policy is one thing, Inspiration/Vision is another, but it all comes down to GOTV.

      Being pessimistic is not useful.  Being realistic is.  Reality says that you need several cycles to get wins in areas.  My favorite story is the 3x candidate that finally knocks off the powerful incumbent (see: Bera vs. Lungren).  Persistence needed to sustain a multi-cycle view requires a positive outlook.

      I think OFA knew this back in 2008 - even in the primary cycle. Focused on what mattered - running up the score in red states.

      We need to do that again. 50 State strategy + retail politics = WIN.

      Make sure everyone's vote counts: Verified Voting

      by sacrelicious on Mon Nov 12, 2012 at 11:18:11 AM PST

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    •  Fear is a powerful motivator (0+ / 0-)

      But we need to fight fear with hope.  People want to be led and they prefer the carrot to the stick.

      It is well that war is so terrible -- lest we should grow too fond of it. Robert E. Lee

      by ksuwildkat on Mon Nov 12, 2012 at 01:46:59 PM PST

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    •  No. Not all Democrats. (0+ / 0-)

      There have been some good diaries on the topic. Please be aware that only SOME of us respond well to pessimism. Some of us respond much, MUCH better to optimism-- the feeling that the fight is winnable, and is in fact going our way.

      ... there is always an easy solution to every problem -- neat, plausible and wrong. - H. L. Mencken

      by renbear on Mon Nov 12, 2012 at 05:14:11 PM PST

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