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  •  GREAT POST (7+ / 0-)

    The biggest indication I have seen of the Progressive bubble is the notion that we can jettison our Blue Dogs.   We may not want them, but we damn well need them.  We need that (slightly) blue voice active in the South, and the difference between a Blue Dog and a Tea Partier in congress is a pretty big difference indeed.

    Minority rights should never be subject to majority vote.

    by lostboyjim on Mon Nov 12, 2012 at 09:35:33 AM PST

    •  yeah, this needs to be Rec listed. (1+ / 0-)
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      Diarist knows what he's talking about, and knows how to analyze difficult problems in depth.  For which reason we need to pay attention to this.

      And your point is a good one also: we need the pesky Blue Dogs for now.  

      To which I would add, the way to replace Blue Dogs is by changing the cultures in the states that elected them.

      The culture change comes first, and then it is reflected in the political change.  

      We got the future back.

      by G2geek on Mon Nov 12, 2012 at 09:44:55 AM PST

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    •  I agree it's a great post, but the "Blue Dogs" can (0+ / 0-)

      start their own party and leave the Democrat party. That would thin out the Republicans much more than the Democrats.
      I believe they belong right there with Joe Lieberman, another turncoat.

      "If you tell the truth, you won't have to remember anything", Mark Twain

      by Cruzankenny on Mon Nov 12, 2012 at 09:46:57 AM PST

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      •  What we need is a three party system. (1+ / 0-)
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        The extremist Tea Party, the Progressive Democratic Party, and the haggard and weak-kneed Centrist Party made up of the fence-sitting pragmatic stragglers from the republican and democratic parties.

        I believe that would give the Progressive Democratic Party all the advantage as the Tea Party would be way too radical for most Americans and the Centrist Party would be incapable of committing to any one platform or confidently backing any one candidate.

        Vote Tea Party Taliban! Bring the Burqa to America.

        by Pescadero Bill on Mon Nov 12, 2012 at 10:42:55 AM PST

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    •  I don't even think blue dogs are a bad idea (0+ / 0-)

      Why should the GOP have all the fiscal conservatives? Particularly when their so-called "fiscal conservatives" come with all that Neanderthal baggage.

      Having a few people on our side to remind us that the public does think a well kept budget is desirable... well that's not entirely a bad thing.

      Think of Blue Dogs as a way to attract people willing to dip a toe in the water. Then, when their fears of desiccation into Kenyan Muslim Atheist Obamunism are done,  they can take the whole swim!

      Rick Perry - the greatest scientist since Galileo!

      by Bobs Telecaster on Mon Nov 12, 2012 at 09:59:37 AM PST

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    •  Agree on Blue Dogs (1+ / 0-)
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      To me Blue Dogs are our Canaries in the Coal Mine.  If they are too happy, we have gone too far to the right.  If they leave, we have gone too far to the left.  Look at the Kansas Republicans who saw their party turn crazy and became Democrats.  If we see Blue Dogs suddenly switching parties, we need to do a systems check to make sure we have not gone off the deep end.  

      The GOP likes to talk big tent but they dont practice it.  We need to practice many tents.

      Im a church going, gun owning, military officer white guy.  I also happen to be pro-choice, pro-marriage equality and pro-green.  Democrats need to make sure that we are not turning people away just because they dont fit the "perfect Democrat" description (atheist gay vegan mixed latino/asian community organizer with a wind farm and zero carbon footprint??).

      Having said that, guys like Lieberman are not Blue Dogs, just assholes.

      It is well that war is so terrible -- lest we should grow too fond of it. Robert E. Lee

      by ksuwildkat on Mon Nov 12, 2012 at 01:10:59 PM PST

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