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  •  1st degree murder then? (0+ / 0-)

    Yes I know there are the manslaughters, involuntary and voluntary, and several degrees of murder.  How long do you want my response to be?

    I was referring to pre-meditated 1st degree murder, and I don't think there's much chance of rehabilitation for that.  All trust is gone.  Would you let a convicted 1st degree murderer play with your kids?

    The point is, should a person who kills 1 be punished less than a person who kills 2?

    •  A person who kills two whats? (4+ / 0-)

      If the answer is "two people", then we've just surrendered on an important point, haven't we?  
      I have no problem with a law that considers an assault which causes the termination of a pregnancy a more serious offense, just as an assault which causes permanent disability can be considered a more serious offense.  But once the law defines the embryo as a separate person under the law, we're setting a dangerous precedent.  It is exactly that kind of law that will be used if/when they move to overturn Roe v Wade at the Supreme Court.

      •  Yes, absolutely (1+ / 0-)
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        LadyMiseryAli

        Civil rights begin at birth, so no, it's not two people.  The question is asking if the criminal deserves a harsher sentence.  Once a person violates our trust and kills, he goes to jail.  What's the point of piliing on after that?

        Does the guy in Colorado get 1/10 the food of a single murder or something?  If a person is going away for decades or life, it's because they can't be safely let loose, not that they're being punished "extra hard".  What sense is that?

        •  Here's the thing... (2+ / 0-)
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          4mygirls, Norm in Chicago

          The people that are proposing those laws that establish "fetal personhood" by treating the non-consensual termination of a pregnancy as murder aren't actually concerned with what is and isn't a just sentence.  What they're concerned with is putting another arrow in their quiver for the day they march up to the Supreme Court to argue for the reversal of Roe v Wade.  

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