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  •  It won't pass in Ohio (0+ / 0-)

    I hate to throw cold water on your idea, but IMHO, there is no way in hell that legalizing pot will pass in Ohio at this time.  Within this swing state there is a faction of conservative Christians who would come out in opposition to decriminalization with the "gateway drug" argument.  I would prefer we try to work on overturning the gay marriage ban in Ohio before tackling this.  If repealing the gay marriage ban passes, then we might be ready to decriminalize marijuana.

    For at least another hundred years we must pretend to ourselves and to everyone that fair is foul and foul is fair; for foul is useful and fair is not. Avarice and usury and precaution must be our gods for a little longer still. --John Maynard Keynes

    by Kurt from CMH on Tue Nov 13, 2012 at 10:49:40 AM PST

    •  Kurt, it ain't your parents electorate (1+ / 0-)
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      I keep having to remind my 70 something mother that her mother's generation is dead.

      The only generation alive that didn't use a lot of pot is those 70 and older, and they tend to, well, die.

      Conservative Christians are a dying subculture, and aren't near 50% of the entire state.

      Best way to get Gay Marriage, put it on the same ballot with Legal Cannabis -- just
      like WA state did this year.  (Both won, and
      weed got more votes that almost every statewide official.)

      There are plenty of Republican weed smokers in Ohio, I promise you.   It's a crossover issue, and a winner for us.

      Look, it's fine if the ballot measure fails the first time.   In fact, that's what it takes sometimes.   California and Nevada failed before WA and CO passed.

      As Roosevelt said the point is to at least try.   Hope you'll support BOTH Gay Rights and Minority Rights to Weed.

      •  Color me skeptical (0+ / 0-)

        Having lived here just about all my life, I am not convinced that legalizing marijuana will pass at this time.  Like I said, there is a segment of the electorate here in Ohio-- and they're not all over 70-- that wouldn't accept legalization.  I am on the fence myself.  I would only accept it if it came with a hefty tax and it were sold out of state-run stores, much like our liquor store system used to be.  I don't consider marijuana to be a drug without drawbacks; I think it is more like alcohol or tobacco, and should be taxed and regulated as the state sees fit.  The state has to have a way of dealing with the negative effects of an intoxicating drug.

        There are a few things you should know about Ohio.  One thing has to do with casino gambling.  We have four casinos here that will all soon be open.  The ballot issue for legalizing casino gambling passed in 2009. It took four tries over the course of about 4 or 5 years, because both conservative and liberal church groups were against it because of the negative effects of gambling.  What we ended up with was a cartel running the casinos.  I think a lot of Ohioans would be really wary of legalizing pot.  It's not a slam dunk.

        For at least another hundred years we must pretend to ourselves and to everyone that fair is foul and foul is fair; for foul is useful and fair is not. Avarice and usury and precaution must be our gods for a little longer still. --John Maynard Keynes

        by Kurt from CMH on Tue Nov 13, 2012 at 01:33:16 PM PST

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    •  Those Christians are all repentent sinners that (1+ / 0-)
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      love their marijuana.

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