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  •  keep his kids out of it. (12+ / 0-)

    Poor comment.

    I'm glad Barack Obama is our President.

    by TomP on Tue Nov 13, 2012 at 04:46:55 AM PST

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    •  I suspect the point is... (10+ / 0-)

      ..That this austerity is not something that President Obama nor his loved ones will experience personally. It is easy to make a Grand Bargain at other people's (and other people's children's) expense.

      These Presidents and their children will love in wealth and comfort with untold opportunities--just look at how doors open for Chelsea.

      When the President speaks about "tough choices" he doesn't mean for himself and his loved ones. That's the essence of our contemporary class system.

    •  Ok, Obama & Reid will never be bankrupt (4+ / 0-)

      They'll never have to worry about SS or the cost of health care.  

      They'll never have to worry about waiting until age 70 to retire.

      They'll never have to worry about his SS check keeping up with the cost of living.

      Please stand by. I'm looking for a new sig line.

      by Betty Pinson on Tue Nov 13, 2012 at 08:58:41 AM PST

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      •  Funny, neither did FDR... (0+ / 0-)

        and he did pretty well by the social safety net.

        As have many, many rich Congress members over the history of the 20th and 21st Centuries.

        It's not about whether a politician will need these programs, but whether she or he understand why they matter.

        Some Democrats and Progressives and Liberals may believe President Obama and Harry Reid don't understand why the social safety net matters, and that's their right.

        I, however, believe they know damn well why the programs matter.  and it's not just for getting votes.

        Hope isn't a choice, it's a moral obligation...hope is not naive, hope grapples endlessly with despair. Tony Kushner, 2002

        by Commoditize This on Tue Nov 13, 2012 at 10:51:48 AM PST

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        •  Obama doesn't like FDR (0+ / 0-)

          FDR and his cousin TR were both relics of another era - wealthy people who actually cared about building the nation for the future, curbing abusive business practices and helping those in need.

          Those kind of intelligent, thoughtful, compassionate billionaires are nearly extinct.

          Political leaders like those in the GOP, as well as conservative Dems like Obama and Reid have little more than scorn for the great works of people like FDR.

          Disgusting, yes. An embarrassment to our party, oh yes.

          Now cue the person who usually comes along and posts about what a bad president FDR was.  

          In 3...2...1.....

          Please stand by. I'm looking for a new sig line.

          by Betty Pinson on Tue Nov 13, 2012 at 12:29:17 PM PST

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    •  I was responding to a comment (1+ / 0-)
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      that brought them up.

      All of the people mentioned will experience unimaginable privilege merely for being born. Austerity, as the original commenter was suggesting, will ever touch them.



      Those who do not move, do not notice their chains. Rosa Luxemburg

      by chuckvw on Tue Nov 13, 2012 at 10:13:46 AM PST

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    •  It is not wrong (0+ / 0-)

      to point out that Obama is just as much a 1%er as the rest of them

      This has been a golden age for confirmation bias. - David Brooks

      by Mindful Nature on Tue Nov 13, 2012 at 11:51:22 AM PST

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