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  •  We should impeach Thomas and Scalia in 2015. (2+ / 0-)
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    Need the House back for that, but there is PLENTY of evidence of impropriety -- Thomas with income from corporate interests, and Scalia with Cheney.

    Happy little moron, Lucky little man.
    I wish I was a moron, MY GOD, Perhaps I am!
    —Spike Milligan

    by polecat on Tue Nov 13, 2012 at 12:09:06 PM PST

    •  polecat - even if you had a Dem House (4+ / 0-)

      you couldn't get 50 votes to impeach Thomas or Scalia. There is no way you would get a majority of House members to vote to start an investigation and the President would put a stop to it if it was even suggested.

      "let's talk about that"

      by VClib on Tue Nov 13, 2012 at 12:15:52 PM PST

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      •  why would the president stop (0+ / 0-)

        an investigation that would give him two more justices to nominate? that seems counterproductive.

        and if the president cracked the whip on a flipped house, we could get those bastards out.

        •  sporks - for two reasons (3+ / 0-)
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          The President does not believe that impeachment is an appropriate remedy for Supreme Court justices who have legal views he does not agree with. In addition, he does not want to further politicize the Court. The US has never impeached, and removed, a member of the SCOTUS and Scalia and Thomas will not be the first.  

          With the exception of one possible issue regarding a memorial to Thomas in his hometown I have never read anything from a non-biased source that the behavior of either Scalia or Thomas would rise to the level of an impeachable offense. I think that nearly all of the Dems in the House and Senate would agree with me. I have read many articles, and certainly diaries here at DKOS, that have outlined events that partisans feel should be grounds for an impeachment. However, even here at DKOS our most respected lawyers on this site have shot them all down.

          "let's talk about that"

          by VClib on Tue Nov 13, 2012 at 01:13:04 PM PST

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          •  the law really doesn't matter (0+ / 0-)

            unlike in actual courts, all it takes is two votes to impeach a justice. one to begin impeachment in the house, and another to remove the justice in the senate. thats it.

            furthermore, i highly doubt the president would say no to impeach any of the 5 who are trying to obstruct his agenda.  he's a brilliant politician, and i just can't see him being this dumb.

            •  sporks - while it is true (2+ / 0-)
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              coffeetalk, johnny wurster

              that impeachment is a political issue, and not a criminal one, for the first removal of a Supreme Court Justice in our nation's history members of Congress would require something that was so black and white that no one would think of it as a partisan Democratic attack on conservative Justices. It is not dumb for the President to respect the history of the Court and that members, once confirmed by the Senate, serve for life even if you don't like their decisions.

              "let's talk about that"

              by VClib on Tue Nov 13, 2012 at 01:48:29 PM PST

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            •  He's a Constitutional Scholar. (2+ / 0-)
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              Pirogue, johnny wurster

              There's no way he would support something so damaging to the country.

              The last time a Kangaroo Court was convened to impeach a president, it turned much of the country bitter.  We don't need that.

              I have no objection to investigating the hell out of them, and Thomas looks ripe for charges, but until something concrete arises ... no way.

              I am not religious, and did NOT say I enjoyed sects.

              by trumpeter on Tue Nov 13, 2012 at 01:52:15 PM PST

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        •  The idea of impeaching a sitting Justice (1+ / 0-)
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          based on onerous rulings is an idea worthy only of Tea Party hot-heads and is a precedent that would have serious consequences for democracy. Our whole system would become unstable if we engaged in impeacment wars between opposing ideolgies. It should also be noted that it is a war that we would not win given the ideological leaning of the country at large.

          These ideas are best relegated to the fever swamp of wingnut demagoguery.

          The world is a den of thieves and night is falling. -Ingmar Bergman

          by Pirogue on Tue Nov 13, 2012 at 03:07:48 PM PST

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          •  Scalia's rulings WRT Cheney are out of bounds? (0+ / 0-)

            Hunting bros before Constitution?

            Happy little moron, Lucky little man.
            I wish I was a moron, MY GOD, Perhaps I am!
            —Spike Milligan

            by polecat on Tue Nov 13, 2012 at 05:23:17 PM PST

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            •  Absent hard evidence of direct collusion (0+ / 0-)

              I would say it is out of bounds.

              For proveable impropreities short of actual collusion I wouild have no problem with a Congressional censure. But some kind of overt impropriety would have to be demonstrated, not just fratranization. I think his failure to recuse himself would be cause for public embarassment but I don't think there is any hard and fast rule that requires recusal or that would raise such failure to the level of an actionable offense.

              If we tried to impeach for an offense that was less than egregious we would be raising the window for open season on justices. This would lead to a mounting series of Constitutional crises akin to the sort of thing that typically happens in unstable third-world governments. Democracy requires a modicum of confidence in the mechanisms of governance. It would not be a healthy turn of events.

              The world is a den of thieves and night is falling. -Ingmar Bergman

              by Pirogue on Tue Nov 13, 2012 at 05:46:18 PM PST

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