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  •  Is Robert Reich (7+ / 0-)

    Aware that Obama cannot simply mandate higher taxes and that the only reason they're going to go up is because the tax cuts reach their expiration date?

    http://callatimeout.blogspot.com/

    by DAISHI on Tue Nov 13, 2012 at 04:42:46 AM PST

    •  hahaha...this guy, too (5+ / 0-)
      Lincoln Lesson Three: Take the long view. Lincoln clearly saw the future in a way that many of his contemporaries could not.
      like obama doesn't already do that.  hello?!??

      but thanks for a discussion of the debt situation that's just facts and no "zomg!", Georgia!

      Please don't dominate the rap, Jack, if you got nothin' new to say - Grateful Dead

      by Cedwyn on Tue Nov 13, 2012 at 04:48:01 AM PST

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    •  The GOP thrives by twisting reality & controlling (3+ / 0-)

      the framing of issues.

      "Raising taxes on the rich" = "Income residtribution and fiscal cliff"

      When Obama cut the SS tax on employers a year and a half ago - in an apparent effort to appease the hatefilled republicans that would rather hang him from a tree - we knew they would SCREAM "OBAMA'S RAISING TAXES" when the cut expired.

      They are fucking shameless to well past the point of "evil".

      IF GOP conduct isn't evil, the word simply has no meaning.

      The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men.

      by xxdr zombiexx on Tue Nov 13, 2012 at 05:01:16 AM PST

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      •  No, no, no (0+ / 0-)

        Raising taxes on the rich = killing job creation because the rich are all small business owners who are right now planning to spend their money creating new jobs if the IRS doesn't sweep it all out of their hands!

        The elevation of appearance over substance, of celebrity over character, of short term gains over lasting achievement displays a poverty of ambition. It distracts you from what's truly important. - Barack Obama

        by helfenburg on Tue Nov 13, 2012 at 10:03:30 AM PST

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    •  Obama can mandate by veto (1+ / 0-)
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      and thus allow the BUsh tax cuts to expire.  He holds ALL the cards here.

      •  We'll see if Obama gives away half of his cards (1+ / 0-)
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        to the Repubs before betting opens like he did in the last 3.5 years.  

        And who's to say the Repubs need to go along?  Voters' memories are short and they can easily just give Obama the finger like they have done so successfully since 2008, just this time more subtly. I'd bet they in fact do. I'm suspicious of all this optimism about Obama's political capital.  He had it last time and decided to give half of it or more away to the Repubs.

        The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt. Bertrand Russell

        by accumbens on Tue Nov 13, 2012 at 05:33:02 AM PST

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        •  I agree (1+ / 0-)
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          although I don;t think OBama gave away much from his perspective.  He is a dyed in the wool DLC centrist.  He's got political capital but he's more likely to use it to "reform" SS & Medicare than to strengthen ro enhance those programs, to mollify his left to accept tough love, not drive the right where we'd like to see things go.

    •  I'm sorry, did you miss (0+ / 0-)

      the word "PROPOSE" in Reich's article?

      I search in vain for the word "mandate" or any synonym in that article, or anything suggesting that Reich thinks the POTUS can mandate hire taxes.

      And you might check out the final graf of the article (emphasis added by me):

      Mr. President, I’d recommend this as your opening bid. With enough luck and pluck, maybe even your closing bid. And if enough Americans are behind you, it could even be the final deal.
      I'm sorry, did "bid" just suddenly become a synonym for "mandate" when I wasn't looking?

      You did read the article, didn't you?

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