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  •  Worse than Linda Tripp. (10+ / 0-)

    The entire scandal is how the heck there was an FBI investigation in the first place. Shirtless is the reason why.

    •  um no, security was breeched (0+ / 0-)

      they used terrorist methods of communicating.

      it's completely valid and why are you spreading bullshit?

      -You want to change the system, run for office.

      by Deep Texan on Tue Nov 13, 2012 at 10:03:01 AM PST

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      •  That is not what started the FBI investigation (1+ / 0-)
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        Kelley received "harassing emails" and complained to an FBI friend. According to The Daily Beast, the emails hardly amount to a crime to be investigated.  

        The breech you allude to was only discovered later, and also was not a crime. So far every single article I have read has said no crime was committed. Security was not compromised. It looked like it might have been, but then they ruled it out.

        Maybe instead of popping off on a fellow Kossak, you can read everything about the topic like I have and get all the facts.

        •  which led to them investigating (0+ / 0-)

          and it wouldn't have gone up the chain

          except for said email usage that looked like the way terrorists do it.

          really stupid.  this would have never gone this far if they saw it was an affair.  

          they weren't investigating this because of an affair.  they didn't know what was going on.  their own behavior made it worse!

          maybe you can come with the facts.  instead of downplaying every aspect of this potential bombshell of a story.

          -You want to change the system, run for office.

          by Deep Texan on Tue Nov 13, 2012 at 12:17:46 PM PST

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          •  Read the New York Times (3+ / 0-)

            Petraeus Case Raises Fears About Privacy in Digital Era

            In the current F.B.I. case, a Tampa woman, Jill Kelley, a friend both of David H. Petraeus, the former C.I.A. director, and Gen. John R. Allen, the top NATO commander in Afghanistan, was disturbed by a half-dozen anonymous e-mails she had received in June. She took them to an F.B.I. agent whose acquaintance with Ms. Kelley (he had sent her shirtless photos of himself — electronically, of course) eventually prompted his bosses to order him to stay away from the investigation.

            But a squad of investigators at the bureau’s Tampa office, in consultation with prosecutors, opened a cyberstalking inquiry. Although that investigation is still open, law enforcement officials have said that criminal charges appear unlikely.

            In the meantime, however, there has been an earthquake of unintended consequences. What began as a private, and far from momentous, conflict between two women, Ms. Kelley and Paula Broadwell, Mr. Petraeus’s biographer and the reported author of the harassing e-mails, has had incalculable public costs.

            And from the ACLU:
            “There should be an investigation not of the personal behavior of General Petraeus and General Allen but of what surveillance powers the F.B.I. used to look into their private lives,” Anthony D. Romero, executive director of the American Civil Liberties Union, said in an interview. “This is a textbook example of the blurring of lines between the private and the public.”
            I don't agree with you that there was cause for an investigation. It was a favor to a friend that quickly got out of control. It could happen to anyone, and it shows we need reform on electronic surveillance.
          •  Also, even if your bombshell theory is right (0+ / 0-)

            Personal stuff should never have been investigated. Yes, I have watched "The Wire", and they always had to stop recording when it switched to personal lives. Yet for email, anything goes for surveillance? Wrong, wrong, wrong.

            •  once they have probably cause (0+ / 0-)

              yes, that's what our laws are for.  to protect us.

              that they are misused doesn't excuse the fact that they have this right and there is nothing wrong with that.

              really it's looking like if they hadn't used an email account for communication in similar ways terrorists do, then this wouldn't have happened.

              -You want to change the system, run for office.

              by Deep Texan on Tue Nov 13, 2012 at 12:35:18 PM PST

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    •  The investigation was justified. (1+ / 0-)
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      Threats made with reference to the CIA director.

      The conclusion was also justified.

      "Nothing happening here. Move on."

      •  What conclusion? (1+ / 0-)
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        So far, no allegations that a crime had been committed. That may change, but I go on what I have actually read. Original FBI investigation should not have happened, except the person complaining was well connected. I mean no there there.

      •  Yeah, but the "threats" were (0+ / 0-)

        from Petraeus' girlfriend to the Tampa socialite that shirtless whistleblower was hoping to bed. Or, as described in the film Burn After Reading,

        "They all seem to be sleeping with each other."

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