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  •  I am very clear on what I value. (5+ / 0-)

    After the Catfood Commission and the various gangs, Durbin doesn't make the cut.  I would not donate to him.  I would not doorknock for him.  If he got a primary opponent I would donate to him or her.

    The state races are more consequential for our daily lives than the presidential race. GOTV

    by 2laneIA on Tue Nov 13, 2012 at 08:11:09 PM PST

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    •  yikes (7+ / 0-)

      You are in Iowa.

      Are you advocating primarying Tom Harkin because he has actually voted for Medicare means testing?

      If not, why not?

      Durbin, of course, voted against means testing.

      Regarding liberalism, they are roughly equivalent otherwise.
      Durbin is better than Harkin on marriage equality (being in favor of marriage rather than just civil unions). Durbin is better on progressive taxation as well.

      The plural of anecdote is not data.

      by Skipbidder on Tue Nov 13, 2012 at 08:40:56 PM PST

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      •  Tom Harkin has been defending these programs (0+ / 0-)

        and not proposing cuts to them from behind closed doors as part of a "gang" intending to ram through those cuts in an undemocratic way.  I tried to find whatever you are referring to, including looking at the Alliance for Retired Americans score sheets back to 2007, and I do not find anything supporting your statement.  ARA gives him a 99% lifetime score. You should watch this speech on CSPAN sometime if you want to know what Tom thinks about the efforts of our Democratic President (with Durbin's help) to cut Social Security.  Everyone has their red lines.  This is one of mine.  

        On marriage equality, I found this:

        On marriage equality, on which his state of Iowa has led the way, Harkin said it was only matter of time before it came to every state.

        "Look," he said, "marriage equality is really the civil rights issue of our time and that time has come. I think more and more people are saying, 'Yes, time to put that behind us.' We did that in Iowa. Yeah, there's always some who want to turn the clock back. Heck, I bet you can find people today who would like to to turn back the Civil Rights Act of the 1965. They want to get rid of the Voting Rights Act. There's always people like that. but I think the great bulk of Americans would just as soon say, 'That's history, we're beyond that.'"

        Also this, same Signorile interview:
        Harkin, chair of the Senate Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Committee, has spearheaded the effort to get ENDA passed, having held hearings in the Senate back in June.

        "I'm not going to give up on the Employment Non-Discrimination Act," he said. "It's a civil rights issue. I know we can't get it this year because of Republican opposition, but I'll be there next year. We'll have Barack Obama as president. I believe we'll still have a majority in the Senate and I'm going to continue to bring it up. We're not going to sit back on it. And quite frankly, I think we have a lot of employers in this country that would like to see something like this pass. Right now, a lot of employers are caught in a crossfire on this. If they have ENDA, it frees them up. All I can tell you is, we're not giving up."

        The state races are more consequential for our daily lives than the presidential race. GOTV

        by 2laneIA on Wed Nov 14, 2012 at 07:44:32 AM PST

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          I used to live in Iowa. I volunteered for Harkin for Senate. I caucused for him in 1992 when he ran for President. I quite like him. He does have some bad votes, however. The most irritating to me are regarding alternative medicine (DSHEA has done a lot of health care harm, and he was a cosponsor along with the odious Orrin Hatch.)

          The vote that should bother YOU if you are a health care purist is the vote he cast in favor of means testing for Medicare. He voted to table Ted Kennedy's Amendment #440; to the Balanced Budget Act (Senate 947). Dick Durbin cast his vote in the liberal purist way (which was a NO vote here).

          I don't really need to read up on Harkin feels about Simpson-Bowles. I don't like Simpson-Bowles. I hope we do much, much better. I think that the circumstances are different now than they were when that committee meant, and that the Dems realize that we don't have to cave that much. I was just point out that Harkin (who is someone from the State where you actually live) has a bad vote on Medicare. It doesn't make sense to me that you want to primary Durbin and not Harkin.

          Harkin certain is quite good on gay rights. It's just that Durbin is better. Harkin voted for DOMA. His HRC scorecard shows a 93%. This is great. Durbin's is 100%.

          The plural of anecdote is not data.

          by Skipbidder on Wed Nov 14, 2012 at 03:57:06 PM PST

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          •  It looks like a bad vote. (0+ / 0-)

            In 1997.  Since then he has apparently evolved, and has earned a 99% score from ARA.

            I have a profound disagreement with what Durbin did last year and is still doing right now, in that he is trying to engineer cuts to Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid--unnecessary and cruel cuts that will cause needless death and suffering.  

            Quoting from the letter from 350 economists that is the subject of another diary:

            That threat has led to backroom negotiations, backed by a multimillion dollar public relations campaign, toward a "grand bargain" that would maintain tax give-aways for the rich; cut Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid; and impose new, job-killing spending cuts. This is no bargain, and it should be rejected.

            The state races are more consequential for our daily lives than the presidential race. GOTV

            by 2laneIA on Thu Nov 15, 2012 at 10:30:43 AM PST

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