Skip to main content

View Diary: Husted slapped on provisional ballot action (77 comments)

Comment Preferences

  •  Vote tabulating machines were watched by feds (6+ / 0-)

    This diary is about some of the fraud tricks used to keep people from voting. There were other problems like long lines in democratic areas, voting machine problems and so forth.

    A book that covers the whole country "Was The 2004 Presidential Election Stolen? exit polls, election fraud, and the official count" by S Freeman and J. Bleifuss

    I was in the evening celebration here at the capitol in Columbus OH when the exit polls and early votes showed Kerry ahead of W. Bush. Then later in the evening, the numbers swung to W and he won.

    The authors of the book above in their acknowledgements on page 246 said "Bob Fitrakis and Harvey Wasserman, who have published more solid reporting on problems in the Ohio election than all the mainstream media combined, were helpful in many ways."

    You may have heard about the voting machines owned by Romney's son and the experimental software that was unaudited and installed at the last minute. Bob Fitrakis took Husted to court over the untested and uncertified software patch.

    Here is Bob's article on what happened and what didn't happen because the feds better knew the game and were on site throughout the state.

    Why Rove failed to deliver Ohio on Election Day: What happened in Ohio – this time around

    http://www.freepress.org/...

    You can check out their web site for more articles about Ohio. They run the operation with no paid staff and are gaining more traction with and through the Election Integrity effort.

    Another site which has a lot about election integrity is bradblog.com

    •  This is Why ... (0+ / 0-)

      the Voting Rights Act should be amended to include uniform nationwide minimum standards for conducting elections.  There should not be the opportunity to play games with polling place hours, equipment, and staffing.
      The methods used to record and count the vote should be reliable, and the count should be timely (a week after the election, there are still states going through provisional and other ballots by hand with no definite end in sight.) Minnesota and Wisconsin seem to have figured out the mechanics of it.

      "Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything even remotely true." -- H. Simpson

      by midnight lurker on Tue Nov 13, 2012 at 07:06:40 PM PST

      [ Parent ]

      •  Midnight Lurker, you don't know (5+ / 0-)

        what you are asking. You need to come down to the Cuyahoga County board of elections, register as an observer, and see what we are doing. You think it's over the top to still be counting THIRTY THOUSAND PLUS provisionals a week after the election? Please. And "there's no end is sight" is incorrect: there is a drop-dead deadline, and we were told going in we would be working overtime if we fell behind.

        The "methods use to record and count the vote" are reliable, and again, I suggest you come observe before you make such pronouncements. I am becoming less and less in the mood for this kind of pronouncements made by people who simply don't know what's involved.

        Take the "Can't(or)" out of Congress. Support E. Wayne Powell in Va-07. http://www.ewaynepowell.com/

        by anastasia p on Tue Nov 13, 2012 at 07:44:16 PM PST

        [ Parent ]

        •  I Am Not Criticizing Individual Workers (0+ / 0-)

          I think, by and large, they are dedicated to the task. I am criticizing the system. In the case of Ohio, the Secretary of State has engaged in blatantly illegal acts aimed at reducing accessibility to the polls and cooking the count. But nationally, there are a multiple cases of "who could have known?" being used as the excuse for all the shortcomings being seen (AZ is just one example.) There is much too much room for mischief on the state and local levels.

          The fact that your count is short-staffed falls into that category. That's not your fault. The fact that some voting machine(s) in Ohio were found to be miscounting is not your fault. The fact that Husted made up the rules for provisionals as he went along is not your fault.

          All those could eventually be brought under control if the states had to adhere to enforceable requirements. Purposeful lack of planning, lack of staffing, and lack of funding should be actionable by the DOJ.

          "Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything even remotely true." -- H. Simpson

          by midnight lurker on Wed Nov 14, 2012 at 06:20:04 AM PST

          [ Parent ]

    •  This is all bullshit (2+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      InsultComicDog, BlueStateRedhead

      and it's why our voice is being muted on issues like this. If we persist in spreading this hooey about 2004, we will become a laughingstock and it will make defeat of Husted much more difficult. Just stop it, please. I've lost a lot of respect for Bob over this. I think he was just fishing. His court challenge went nowhere, and Tagg Romney never had shit-all to do with Ohio's election tabulation. Neither did George Soros, which I heard a Paulie yelling about one day at the Board of Elections. Anyone who thinks Romney had anything to do with counting Ohio's votes is as crazy as that Paulie.

      I trusted Bob Fitrakis and Harvey Wasserman at one point but now less so. I unsubscribed to BradBlog over its utter unreliability on election issues. It's a conspiracy theory site, at least on this issue.

      It's madness to think Husted is going to go this far for a few votes if they have all kinds of ways of manipulating the votes on the back end. I am more convinced than ever, after Wasserman and Fitrakis disgraced themselves over this magical software patch, that they don't have ANY such ways.

      Take the "Can't(or)" out of Congress. Support E. Wayne Powell in Va-07. http://www.ewaynepowell.com/

      by anastasia p on Tue Nov 13, 2012 at 07:41:31 PM PST

      [ Parent ]

Subscribe or Donate to support Daily Kos.

  • Recommended (129)
  • Community (63)
  • Bernie Sanders (44)
  • Elections (36)
  • Hillary Clinton (28)
  • Culture (28)
  • 2016 (27)
  • Climate Change (26)
  • Civil Rights (23)
  • Science (22)
  • Environment (22)
  • Law (19)
  • Spam (19)
  • Republicans (18)
  • Media (18)
  • Labor (18)
  • Barack Obama (17)
  • Trans-Pacific Partnership (15)
  • White House (14)
  • International (13)
  • Click here for the mobile view of the site