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  •  Here. (5+ / 0-)
    In his opening bid, after the rough framework of a grand bargain was reached, Mr. Boehner told the White House he wanted to cut $450 billion from Medicare and Medicaid in the next decade alone, with more cuts to follow. He also proposed raising the retirement age for Social Security and changing the formula to make benefits less generous.

    Mr. Obama wasn’t willing to go quite that far. But in his counteroffer a few days later, he agreed to squeeze $250 billion from Medicare in the next 10 years, with $800 billion more in the decade after that. He was willing to cut $110 billion more from Medicaid in the short term. And while Mr. Obama rejected raising the retirement age, he did acquiesce to changing the Social Security formula so that benefits would grow at a slower rate.

    http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/...

    it fitfully blows, half conceals, half discloses

    by Addison on Tue Nov 13, 2012 at 06:24:10 PM PST

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    •  That was 18 months ago. (3+ / 0-)
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      leftreborn, notagain, notrouble

      What's breaking about it?

      You can call it "class warfare" -- we call it "common sense"

      by kenlac on Tue Nov 13, 2012 at 06:26:48 PM PST

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      •  Oh, wow. (4+ / 0-)
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        chuckvw, divineorder, 3goldens, blueoasis

        What's breaking is that's where things broke off., and we're back at the table again. That's where we are now. Find any statement of steadfast support for Medicare being untouched among leadership Democrats in the past week. Let's not unskew the negotations, here.

        it fitfully blows, half conceals, half discloses

        by Addison on Tue Nov 13, 2012 at 06:28:41 PM PST

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        •  OK, so what we've got here as a "breaking" (3+ / 0-)
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          divineorder, leftreborn, notagain

          story is, "He agreed to certain things a year and a half ago and nobody has come out and said he won't agree to them again!"

          There's nothing new here, and the headline clearly implies there is.

          You can call it "class warfare" -- we call it "common sense"

          by kenlac on Tue Nov 13, 2012 at 06:32:18 PM PST

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          •  The new thing now is a January 1st, 2013 deadline. (3+ / 0-)
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            divineorder, 3goldens, blueoasis

            And if you think the basic agreement has changed, and think that to not advocate for anything or "freak out" about anything will give you want you want, you'll only have to wait 45 days to feel silly about that...

            it fitfully blows, half conceals, half discloses

            by Addison on Tue Nov 13, 2012 at 06:37:18 PM PST

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          •  Uh, the Des Moines Register interview (0+ / 0-)

            which the President wanted "off the record" but was released by the White House after public pressure.  In that interview, the President, himself, said the following:

            It will probably be messy. It won’t be pleasant. But I am absolutely confident that we can get what is the equivalent of the grand bargain that essentially I’ve been offering to the Republicans for a very long time, which is $2.50 worth of cuts for every dollar in spending, and work to reduce the costs of our health care programs.

            And we can easily meet -- “easily” is the wrong word -- we can credibly meet the target that the Bowles-Simpson Commission established of $4 trillion in deficit reduction...

            IMHO, it is very clear that the President is still looking at something similar to his original offer.

            "Growing up is for those who don't have the guts not to. Grow wise, grow loving, grow compassionate, but why grow up?" - Fiddlegirl

            by gulfgal98 on Wed Nov 14, 2012 at 06:48:59 AM PST

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      •  Ahhhh, the Kaiser Health News article (3+ / 0-)
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        kenlac, aliasalias, Pluto

        was what was breaking.  I see what you are saying, though so will drop that from title.

        Move Single Payer Forward? Join 18,000 Doctors of PNHP and 185,000 member National Nurses United

        by divineorder on Tue Nov 13, 2012 at 06:34:32 PM PST

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