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  •  Be carefull! Don't just knee-jerk oppose. (5+ / 0-)

    There are reasonable ways to trim the rate of increase of Medicare. Actually they are already in ObamaCare (hate that term, but it may be great in the end!) There are certainly some seniors for whom doctor-hopping is their chief social activity. In ObamaCare there are incentives for coordinating services. When you read about those discussions, don't classify them as "reductions in benefits." When Obama cut the pork given to (Busheys) Medicare Advantage, he wasn't cutting benefits.

    There are many ways to cut Medicare inflation. Paying for free PSAs, Mammograms, limited colonoscopies, etc. may seem like an increase, but decreases expenses over time.

    This IS NOT a cut in benefits.

    •  Are you saying that if people have to pay for PSAs (4+ / 0-)

      mammograms, limited colonoscopies, etc., that are free now, it's not a cut in benefits?
      I may be not understanding so just asking.

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      by BigAlinWashSt on Tue Nov 13, 2012 at 06:53:12 PM PST

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    •  What are you doing here? You're rational. (1+ / 0-)
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      I always thought from the beginning that Obama could go after medicare "around the edges" such as you're suggesting.

      They could cut all the unnecessary stuff and save some money. And then, leaving medicare intact, Obama could
      say that he indeed made a contribution to a "bargain" that wouldn't affect my wife's medicare, for example. Or mine, for that matter. And we're the average "medicare user."

      Diarists like this one assume Obama is either stupid, clueless, cynical, and/or aiming to throw us under the bus to "curry favor with the right wing." I never bought that.

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      by Wildthumb on Tue Nov 13, 2012 at 06:53:34 PM PST

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    •  Thanks for sharing your point of view... (5+ / 0-)

      ...MsTribble.  Sorry, I don't share it.

      They are de facto cuts to benefits, they 'seem' like cuts to benefits because they are.

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      by divineorder on Tue Nov 13, 2012 at 06:54:41 PM PST

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      •  replacing fee based services (0+ / 0-)

        with wellness programs? How is that a cut in benefits?

        47 is the new 51!

        by nickrud on Tue Nov 13, 2012 at 07:37:41 PM PST

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        •  We could roulette the cost savings (0+ / 0-)

          If your mammogram is positive for cancer, you don't have to pay for it. That introduces some fun in preventive programs you want seniors to pay for. Ka-ching.


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          by Pluto on Tue Nov 13, 2012 at 08:19:54 PM PST

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          •  what are you talking about? (0+ / 0-)

            screening mammograms are free already.

            47 is the new 51!

            by nickrud on Tue Nov 13, 2012 at 08:57:01 PM PST

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            •  Sorry. (0+ / 0-)

              I was addressing the thread topic.

              There are many ways to cut Medicare inflation. Paying for free PSAs, Mammograms, limited colonoscopies, etc. may seem like an increase, but decreases expenses over time.

              This IS NOT a cut in benefits.

              I was drawing a distinction between wellness and screenings, but they may be the same thing.


              A child of five would understand this. Send someone to fetch a child of five. -- Groucho Marx

              by Pluto on Tue Nov 13, 2012 at 10:51:57 PM PST

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          •  Not making sense! (0+ / 0-)

            A PSA probably costs two bucks for the insurance company. Pills or radiation a LOT cheaper than dying of prostate cancer. Lumpectomies far less than full breast cancer. You sound like an insurance agent.

            The issue isn't whether you get that mammogram, it's WHEN. And early is a tiny fraction of the cost of late.

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